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[–] Shou@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Animals fear men for a reason. Men's BO triggers an acute fear response in rabbits, guinea pigs, rats, mice and hamsters. This experiment did require the animal to be sacrificed, hence why it only involves common laboratory animals.

Anyway. They noticed men would underestimate the suffering of a laboratory animal. They already knew that prey animals hide their pain when they are scared. This is to make them less of an easy target for birds of prey to hunt. Because a limping rabbit, is a much easier meal.

The reason why there was a difference in welfare scoring done by men and women, was because this fear response got triggered. They did an experiment where they had shirts be worn by a man, woman or both for 24 hours. Found that the animals didn't care for smells of women, but feared BO from men. It wasn't a skill issue, or lack of empathy.

We also find in wolves who are used to humans, that they are more hostile towards strange men than they are towards strange women.

Testosterone is not a friendly hormone. It leads to being easily agitatated in all mammals. The only reason higher levels of androgens in humans, correlates with decreased aggressive behaviour is because when we produce more androgens, we produce more estrogens. Which in turn fascilitate communication between two regions in the brain that determine emotional impulses and whether or not the person acts on it. Hence why men are less aware of their emotions (it's not just societal influence), more impulsive and more easily agitated/aggressive than women.

With bears you know what you can expect. And there are even things that can be done to save yourself. But with men? You never really know their intentions. It's why women's intuition exists at the level it does.

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is something I was not aware of. Love to look more into it. Can you link the papers that have studied this for further reading?

I found this paper and it seems to find some things that would agree with your statements and some that would not. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0018506X19304519

For me the big takeaway is that some men and women are violent and that is a brain type that is the root cause that just happens to express more in men than women.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I try to understand your post, and my conclusion is that you arbitrarily chose to abbreviate "body odour"(?) as BO? That's the only possibility I can think of what it could mean in order for the post to make sense

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's too arbitrary but may be generational and/or regional. I grew up with BO being a common abbreviation used for referring to body odor.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I used to think abbreviation overuse was the result of things like SMS and twitter, but then I found out O. J. Simpson had a nickname "The Juice" long ago, so I guess it's just an American thing.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OJ was his initials which is also the initials of orange juice, it's a somewhat creative nickname.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

But it wouldn't be if the initials were not already associated with the drink, hence me realising the thing goes way before the internet.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

WW2 America was an abbreviation and acronym ridden hellhole. A real SNAFU.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Yes. Sorry. It was about body odour.

[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

And yet women are the emotional ones.