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Ex-health minister Dan Poulter who also works as a hospital doctor, says Conservatives have become ‘nationalist party of the right’

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[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

If this was 2017 I'd be inclined to agree. But this guy looked at Johnson and thought he was suitable, and stayed as the wheels fell off. He continued with Truss as the cart exploded, and didn't think about jumping off.

But now?

Well, if he's had some sort of damascene conversion then good for him, but you might as well call me Thomas cos I'm fucking sceptical.

[–] mannycalavera 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, if he's had some sort of damascene conversion then good for him, but you might as well call me Thomas cos I'm fucking sceptical.

He realised that £90k is one heck of a drug and wants that ride to never stop!

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's that, considering he's standing down at the next election anyway:

He said he would not seek re-election to the House of Commons at the next general election. But, writing in the Observer, he says he envisages a role advising the Labour party on its policies on mental health while focusing more on his NHS work.

Whether that advisory role would be paid or not, I don't know, but it certainly wouldn't be to the tune of £90K!

[–] mannycalavera 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Interesting 🤔. Thanks for the clarification.

Out of interest do the Labour party publish stats on how much they pay advisors? Or might they do that when in government since he'll be a government advisor at that stage? If assume an advisor is on a pretty decent wedge.

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd assume we'd have to wait until he was an actual government advisor before we got any figures (if at all). And yeah, advisors can do pretty well for themselves, although how much they get paid depends on how involved they are. Advisory roles can range from full-time consulting roles and helping with policy creation to "hey, can you just spend a couple of hours reading through these documents and give us your thoughts?" once every few months.

You can see the pay for the government's special advisors (ie, the top tier of advisors) here if you're interested. Bear in mind those are in the top, top tier of advisors so most aren't necessarily going to be paid that much.

[–] mannycalavera 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's a lot of money on SPADs! And also of note, zero diversity in that list 😔.

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

It certainly is a lot, although it's the sort of thing where, when you really think about it, you'd kinda hope it's something the government is willing to spend money on. You don't want all the best and brightest just going to private companies because they can earn 3x as much as the government is willing to pay. (Whether the current SPADs are the best and brightest, I don't know... If they are, it's certainly not reflected in the government's decision-making! But I think the point still stands that there needs to be a financial motivation for talented people to work in government rather than private businesses.)

Yeah, the diversity looks pretty bad...

[–] echodot 3 points 6 months ago

Maybe the ghosts of general elections past, present, and future came to visit him. I too find it extremely odd that only now has he decided to switch parties.