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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Why are our enemies so pathetic and stupid when we're so handsome and smart? (forum.effectivealtruism.org)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by dgerard@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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includes considerable nonspecific shit-talking of assigned EA enemies, including - horrors! - Timnit Gebru talking about the social issues of the actually-existing AI-industrial complex. also it's not a CASTLE it's a MANOR HOUSE, you fools, you rubes,

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The problem with this type of criticism is that for the most part it’s usually pretty lazy. If you just want to make people laugh, there’s no need to be charitable or high-effort. The average r/sneerclub post consisted of finding something seemingly absurd or offensive said by a rationalist and then mocking it. The resulting threads are obviously biased and not epistemically rigorous. Like, Wytham abbey was technically a manor house, but “EA gets a castle” is objectively a funnier meme. There are sometimes good arguments in there (I think my old sneerclub posts weren’t terrible), but they’re not the point of the community, and you shouldn’t expect them to be common.

@titotal@awful.systems hey I spend whole minutes crafting sneers, how dare ya call me lazy!

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

also its COMPLETELY WRONG to say that they blew millions in charitable donations on buying a castle. they blew millions in charitable donations on buying two castles

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For the sake of a yudzillion dust specks, what’s another castle?

[–] Collectivist@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It was a chateau in the Czech Republic

It wasn't CEA/EV like with the other 'castle', but it was an organization that had its own tag on the EA forum, so at the very least EA-aligned.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it was a different EA org

a mere tumbledown cottage in a sleepy czech village!

(literally the news story calls it a "castle" in czech)

but let me correct myself: it's COMPLETELY WRONG to say that they blew millions in charitable donations of money stolen from FTX customers on buying a castle. they blew millions in charitable donations of money stolen from FTX customers on two castles

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago

LOL

I also couldn't find this chateau on any website

Well this was probably before the story in irozhlas.cz. It looks like a nice place

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 26 points 7 months ago

The average r/sneerclub post consisted of finding something seemingly absurd or offensive said by a rationalist and then mocking it. The resulting threads are obviously biased and not epistemically rigorous.

This is correct

Like, Wytham abbey was technically a manor house

Lol, 'technically it was a manor house not a castle' come on, you cannot just complain about how low effort sc is and then post something as silly as that.

Wait, was this bait? Have I been baited?

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Wytham abbey was technically a manor house" is objectively even funnier than “EA gets a castle”

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 19 points 7 months ago

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

he may be entitled to compensation

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Gotta start disclaiming our sneers

THE SNEER is provided AS IS in the hope that it will be funny,
but WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,
including but not limited to the warranties of MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, and NONINFRINGEMENT.
In NO EVENT shall the authors or commenters be liable FOR ANY CLAIM,
DAMAGES or OTHER LIABILITY, arising from, out of or in connection
with THE SNEER or the reading or commenting on THE SNEER.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dust specks (of a certain kind) are known to cause mesothelioma

[–] flizzo@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago

If you or your loved ones have been exposed to the knowledge of dust specks, you may be entitled to compensation in a future simulation.