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[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 88 points 8 months ago (3 children)

People need to understand class interest beyond "worker good, Capitalist bad, workers come together and sing kumbaya really hard until Communism happens."

If it were that simple, we would be living in Communism right. It's not that simple. A couple of examples: steel worker union wants the price of steel to be as high as possible so union members are compensated well. Union of... idk, pipe builders want steel to be as cheap as possible for obvious reasons. Despite both groups consisting exclusively of proles, they have contradictory interests.

Another example that's been highlighted by recent DSA actions: class reproduction. Academic "Marxists" generally lose all radicalism because they've secured a position where they can write for a living instead of doing one of the million jobs that no one wants to do. This applies perhaps even more strongly to paid positions within "Socialist" organizations. Why did Maria of the DSA behave with such profound chauvinism on the Cuba trip? Because she sees a path out of working for a living. Everything she did established credibility in the eyes of the people who hire Democratic Party staffers.

And the single most important example in the world today: Americans. A nation ostensibly composed of the working class like any other, yet all but the most vulnerable of its population are so profoundly bribed with the superprofits of the actual global working class that their interests have been thoroughly aligned with the status quo. They constitute a parasitic class on the world stage. Why do the most useless counter-revolutionary tendencies (LeftCommunism, Council Communism, Trotskyism, Neokautskyism) come exclusively from the West? Because the population does not, for the most part, experience revolutionary conditions. They don't need to do a revolution because they will be fine no matter what.

And this isn't some wild, new, 21st century theory. No less than Marx, Engels, and Lenin all described the parasitic nature of British "workers" and their attempt to secure well-being on the backs of the global proletariat: “...The English proletariat is actually becoming more and more bourgeois, so that this most bourgeois of all nations is apparently aiming ultimately at the possession of a bourgeois aristocracy and a bourgeois proletariat alongside the bourgeoisie. For a nation which exploits the whole world this is of course to a certain extent justifiable.”

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

Yeah it’s important to understand dialectical contradictions and be able to identify where your efforts are best spent as a collective

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago

Nothing will cure it but a couple very hard years

[–] flan@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it's true. So what? Why do people need to understand this?

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Because some people don’t want to get Sakai-pilled

[–] flan@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

I guess I was being rhetorical. I see posts come up like this from time to time where they assert it is important that people understand blahblahblah without saying why it is important.

[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

To inform their actions and analysis?