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Here's the website where it also says
So, let's say, somehow someone that isn't a U.S. citizen votes in an Arizona election for a federal office, say...the president. How will that be verified?
Well, first of all, this is Arizona we're talking about, which barely went to Biden during the 2020 election. So there are plenty of "election integrity" watchers or whatever they liken themselves to be. And, for this to be a concern, an immigrant or several, documented or otherwise, would want to jeopardize their chance in the U.S. to vote in an election at the federal level under the conspiracy-addled eye of Arizona republicans. Because if they're undocumented, they will almost certainly be deported. If they are documented, their legal status could be stripped, and they still be deported.
And for what? To be a lone vote in a sea of 150 million to decide the presidency?
Conservatives are wild with their fears. Immigrants are both desperate to trek hundreds of miles through treacherous territory for life in the country on a hill, only to risk it all for the most insignificant method of tipping the scales in a federal election.
Your imaginary villains are irrational.
7.2 million votes in 3 years
What? 7.2 million votes of what in 3 years?
7.2 illegal immigrants
From what I can tell, is that 7.2 million immigrants have been released into the U.S. under Biden's administration.
But the proportion of that 7.2 million outside of Arizona are irrelevant in this conversation. They're not voting in Arizona. And what I said earlier applies to the proportion that are in Arizona.
Sure, not all of them would be in Arizona, but some would be. And without checking, how do you enforce the voting requirements?
I guess we're both going to learn something today, because, as of writing this, I have no idea. So let's dig in! Assuming a non-citizen immigrant attempts to vote in Arizona, how do they enforce voting requirements, namely, that only U.S. citizens vote in federal elections?
My first thought is the process of voting itself.
First, the non-U.S. citizen immigrant must register to vote. Pretty hard to do for someone that isn't a U.S. citizen, a resident of Arizona, and isn't 18+ years old.. Proof of citizen is required merely for registering. So, unless mistakes happen, then all registered voters in Arizona are U.S. citizens.
Right, but the picture above says it's not required. In that case, you're given the Federal Voter Registration Form (this is the same link shown at the bottom of OP's pic). When you get the PDF it asks for an ID #:
If I were an election auditor, my first thought would be to look at box 6 for "None".
Holy crap, this is beyond confusing. If I were a non-citizen immigrant willing to throw away my opportunity in the U.S., I'd be racking my brain about how to vote for Biden to open the border. Because, this is tough. You should try it. Walk through the steps of registering to vote. Even on the federal voter registration for it explicitly says:
So, like...are they going to ask for proof of citizenship anyway? Super unclear.
A better question is how are non-citizen immigrants voting in Arizona in the first place? lol
Ok, thanks for looking into it.
Immigrants, illegal or not, dont get deported for committing crimes.
I would presume just like anyone else, and hope no one checks.