I mean, if someone says "Doom and Wolfenstein" without specifying "Doom Eternal" and "Wolfenstein: Youngblood" (which I had to look up, BTW), I'm thinking of Id.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Me too, but I'm old. I'm betting age has something to do with this.

[–] Lols@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.

that makes sense, especially since Doom eternal is in fact still developed by id

Wolfenstein and Doom have both reached significantly more people since they got adopted by zenimax though, so most folks who actually played the games will have probably gotten introduced to them as Bethesda published games

“Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW),

lol ok

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

what with them being significantly more popular than the earlier games

Dude! The original ones were cultural touchstones in a market that wasn't yet oversaturated. They literally invented and defined the whole genre!

More people might be playing the new ones NOW, but the original ones were undoubtedly MUCH more popular in their time.

[–] Lols@lemm.ee -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Dude! The original ones were cultural touchstones in a market that wasn’t yet oversaturated. They literally invented and defined the whole genre!

the original ones were undoubtedly MUCH more popular in their time.

i mean sure, but that also doesnt matter to the point i was making

More people might be playing the new ones NOW

which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom

I wouldn't be so sure about that, what with the "It runs Doom" meme and the fact that most people on Lemmy seem to be old fucks like me who played them when they originally came out 😄

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah like when we say RoboCop we think of the 2014 movie because it made a lot more at box office, and nobody thinks of the iconic and hugely influential original movie unless you say RoboCop (1987)

[–] Lols@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

the difference is that discussions about robocop are exclusively about the original

if youre convinced the wolfenstein and doom reboots have the same impact and relevance as robocop (2014) youre entirely allowed to stay that way, im not gonna try and shake you out of it

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mate, Wolfenstein means something so far beyond a bunch of entirely forgettable reboots.

[–] Lols@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

thats great

the reboot is still probably most fans entry point to the franchise and frame of reference for discussing it, especially during a discussion about Bethesda

that is not any kind of dig at the older games, the quality of them is entirely irrelevant to the point i was making

you dont need to come to the defense of them, especially by venting about games that i also do not care about