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[–] Bourff@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Metal bands are mostly nazis? Is that the news "satanic scare" like we had in the 80's?

[–] jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Not metal generally, but you should look into Black Metal. It's a real problem there... :-/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Socialist_black_metal_bands

[–] Bananobanza@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Lol, a lot of those names are a little too on the nose. I mean Kristalnacht and Infernall SS? Can't imagine making a wrong assumption on those

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

says Death Metal

links Black Metal

[–] jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 7 months ago

Yeah, already corrected it. Morning Rush.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's why I stay away from these labels. Not against them, but I can't tell what is what.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's generally not that hard, when you listen to metal.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, power and folk are good, anything else is bad. Easy.

/s

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pfff

When I used to have time to figure that out Metallica and Megadeth were still in their good phase, with 4 albums each. And no internet. There was like heavy metal, death, and eventually Nord or something. And these would cover any bands.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like trash and speed existed as well in your time. Black perhaps too, not sure if I'm remembering history well.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It certainly existed as a style, but not sure as a name. At least in my circles we didn't call them that.

[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

This is a tiny portion of black metal in a sub genre . But it isn’t surprising that an extreme genre with a strong counter culture doesn’t have some extreme spin-offs.

Also you can tell which bands are in NSBM because they are all terrible at actually making music.

[–] Bourff@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Of course there are nazis bands, especially I'm black metal. But that's a minority, and they generally suck anyway. But I'm not into BM at all personally, so I don't bother tbh.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s not a majority, but it is a higher risk factor. Especially when Sweden/Finland produce a lot of metal bands and are also a higher risk factor for nazi sympathy - by and large they certainly don’t idealize them but they also aren’t always vilified to the same level as you might expect elsewhere

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, and the aggression in music easily syncs with literal agreccion of the third reich, so it's a low-hanging fruit if you don't have other ideas for music and songs. Lemme try:
Panzer death
Panzer death
Blood soaked brothers march
Panzer death
Panzer death
Glory to our patriarch

bonus points for samples of machinegun added to drums, lyrics in German, bandmembers photographed in pseudo-nazi uniform, etc.

Some idiots will listen that on repeat in no time

Edit: Listen to Hanzel und Gretel - SS Deathstar Supergalaktik, it covers most of the the cliches

[–] jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

Tried to find hints that SS Deathstar Supergalactic is parody. Found none. Help :(

[–] arken@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Nazis are absolutely vilified in Sweden and Finland, I have no idea what you're talking about. I'd say NSBM bands is a lot more prevalent in Eastern Europe and Russia.