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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The US, at least, is far too individualistic to effectively do something like this without the people involved being far from unified, and without there immediately being scabs who are more than willing to take their place.

These people have been so indoctrinated into believing that unions, the very thing that would allow them to effectively do what you suggested, are bad. There is no sense of solidarity in this country.

[–] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Damn. Thought you were advocating for reformism or some other non-syndicalist approach until I noticed the icon. Do you have a favored approach for building that solidarity?

Edit: it’s unfair for me to ask this question. A better way of posing it would have been for me to propose a few and to discuss / develop them.

So, I’d say, I guess organizing outside of the workplace through creating non-hierarchical institutions that meet people’s needs, ie, dual power, is essentially what I’ve arrived at.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I don't know how we fix it.

I'm not sure I would identify myself as a socialist or syndicalist. That said, my politics have been continuously pushed to the left throughout the past 20 years, so you're probably not too far off.