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[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Detry@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] axum@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy.ml is not the tankie instance. Lemmygrad is.

Lemmy.ml is simply run by a tankie, however that so far has not impacted the instance much.

As lemmy is currently growing faster than kbin, we would only be hurting ourselves on the 'official' instance. Instead better instance blocking on a per user basis just needs to be implemented.

[–] Detry@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
[–] axum@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Find a new instance, this is not your fiefdom here to run.

[–] Detry@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, "go away if you're not happy" is really the lamest answer possible. And he is more like "captain reddit", always freaking out about popularity and subscribers.

[–] axum@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin.social is the official flagship instance representing kbin, and should strive to remain above squabbling over politics, only defederating from instances that are actively harmful.

Lemmy.ml is so far not an actively harmful instance. Plus, most people on kbin would prefer not to be defederated against their will and be unable to subscribe to communities from there.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus, most people on kbin would prefer not to be defederated against their will and be unable to subscribe to communities from there.

Well, to quote you, if they are not happy they can always: "Find a new instance, this is not your fiefdom here to run."

[–] Ferk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Appeasing to "most people" would be more of a "democracy" (majority rule) than a "fiefdom".
It actually might be a good idea to organize some votes in the platform to decide on things like this.

[–] merlin@open-source.social 10 points 1 year ago

I don't believe it is about getting their userbase for the benefit of this instance but rather that defederating from a large amount of users not participating in any malicious activity on the basis of someone affiliated with that instance posting malicious works on another instance is (at least in my opinion) antithetical to the idea of the fediverse.
Doing so would step into the fallacy of collective punishment

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I think they are OK with seeing posts from all the people on the instance who aren’t tankies.

[–] merlin@open-source.social 3 points 1 year ago

Wow I thought all of the crying about "tankies" was blown way out of proportion but lemmygrad sure is a special place 😖

[–] stevecrox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree being able to filter/block everything from a domain on a per user basis would seem the reasonable middle ground.

Otherwise you'll just end up with constant demands to defederate based on conflicting moral codes.

I don't think growth should be the primary driver behind any instance, it should be about building and supporting the community on the instance.

Lastly I don't think your argument is very persuasive, pick an idiology/group you feel are immoral (nazis, kkk, isis, etc..) and see if your own argument would convince you.