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Is this some sort of remnant of evangelical puritan protestant ideology?

I don't understaun this.

If you ask me, it'd make as much sense as Orthodox and Christians.... or Shia and Muslim...

I know not all Christians are Catholics but for feck's sake...

They're all Christians to me....

Edit:

It's a U.S thing but this is the sort of things I hear...

https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?

I now know more distinctions (apparently Catholicism requires duty and salvation is process, unlike Protestantism?) but I still think they're of a similar branch (Christianity) so I just wonder the social factor

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s because Protestantism is the dominant form of Christianity in cultures where this language convention exists, and it is a deliberate tactic to other Catholics by labeling them non-Christian. Especially in previous times, Catholics were subject to large amounts of discrimination and antagonism by Protestants, and we’re still dealing with the remnants of this ideology today. I think the only reason it has subsided is the rise of secularism and other more foreign religions that are seen as a greater threat by Christians, forcing them into an uneasy alliance with their former enemies. But remember that tons of Christians used to murder each other over which sect they belonged to.

Interestingly, in Central America, the opposite convention exists, where you are either “Cristiano”, meaning Catholic, or “Evangelico”, meaning Protestant (usually Pentecostal). This is because the dominant group is reversed in that society.

Personally, I view Christianity, Islam, and Judaism as three branches of one religion since they are clearly very similar. But that is the view of an outsider.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I view Christianity, Islam, and Judaism as three branches of one religion since they are clearly very similar. But that is the view of an outsider.

nah, they're grouped together under the umbrella of "Abrahamic religions", and at least muslims regard the other two as "people of the book".

obv your mileage may vary from person to person, I'm not saying the terrorist idiots don't call people infidel left right and center don't exist, but people who are a bit better than that generally see christians and jews as peers.

[–] techwooded@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Don’t forget the Baha’i, the Babs, and the Druze. Don’t know if they’re considered people of the book or not. Same with the Samaritan Israelites

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago

I'll just copy paste Wikipedia since it's actually pretty good here:

In the Quran [the people of the book] are identified as the Jews, the Christians, the Sabians, and—according to some interpretations—the Zoroastrians. Starting from the 8th century, some Muslims also recognized other religious groups such as the Samaritans, and even Buddhists, Hindus, and Jains

We don't actually know who the Sabians were, though there are a few theories.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

I think only Christians, Jews, and Sabians are al-Khitab if I recall correctly from my course on Islam two decades ago.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Catholicism spent centuries converting with a sword and their missionairies destroyed all remnants of native cultures history once they were converted. That's an awful lot of discrimination from Catholics.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

Of course. This was written from the perspective of the English-speaking world, so I primarily focused on Protestant discrimination against Catholics, because that was the norm for several centuries. But as I alluded to in the last section, in predominantly Catholic areas, the situation was about the inverse and similar campaigns were waged against Protestants.