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Why do people say "Catholics and Christians" in (USA) when Catholics are also Christians, as if they refer to it as a different religion. (lemmy.ml)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Hextubewontallowme@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Is this some sort of remnant of evangelical puritan protestant ideology?

I don't understaun this.

If you ask me, it'd make as much sense as Orthodox and Christians.... or Shia and Muslim...

I know not all Christians are Catholics but for feck's sake...

They're all Christians to me....

Edit:

It's a U.S thing but this is the sort of things I hear...

https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?

I now know more distinctions (apparently Catholicism requires duty and salvation is process, unlike Protestantism?) but I still think they're of a similar branch (Christianity) so I just wonder the social factor

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[–] Blahaj_Blast@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Catholics are one of America's og boogeyman. They used to fear the idea of a catholic president who could be influenced by the pope. I'm not sure when that went away.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There was (manufactured?) outrage when Tony Blair converted after his premiership. I don't think the topic of the current UK prime minister's religion even came up when he was appointed. I guess that's progress.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think the topic of the current UK prime minister’s religion even came up when he was appointed.

oh it came up, along with worse.

there's are reasons why Rishi Sunak is an unfit bastard to be PM, but it's the same reasons as Boris Johnson and Theresa May.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I guess I didn't notice in the coverage I watched. Was it the daily mail or just the dreges of the internet?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPYdzIt7p7s

and it got worse after he became PM, then the storm blew over.

didn't help that there was a Hindu celebration that of course he participated in soon after he became PM. I'm not saying it was bad that he did it, I'm saying that it made his standing worse.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Random racists is just background noise these days. I was comparing media coverage and comments from panelists on things like question time. It was certainly an area of comment for Blair and less so for Sunak from my recollection.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I mean, there's something to be said here about modern history (as in, the scope that's about 10 years ago) that I remember there being some hubbub, but not being bothered/capable enough to find specific examples in the scope you want.

I was there when it happened, and I remember it being discussed in the spheres you're talking about, and that was the example I chose to illustrate my point. If you like, you can do some digging, but I've done my part.

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[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

"The Pope is taking over!" - oligarchs probably