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Safe Streets Rebel's protest comes after automatic vehicles were blamed for incidents including crashing into a bus and running over a dog. City officials in June said...

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[–] TanakaAsuka@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're ignoring the thing car drivers complain about the most, traffic delays. To me real freedom is being able to get to the places I need to using my own two feet, without needing to spend thousands every year on a car, insurance, etc. Headphones also exist and let you enjoy your own music while outside of a car without disturbing anyone!

What we need everywhere is a people first policy that makes it so you don't need a car to get around, especially in cities.

I'm not sure what you are talking about with Spain. People there are not "trapped" in cities, they have good public transit in most cities and one of the best high speed rail systems in the world to get between cities, on top of that an extensive bus system that is even cheaper and extensive than the trains.

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But in Spain there are not connections to most places outside cities, like most smaller towns don't even have rail connections, nevermind going to the countryside and touristic places.

Yeah, it's okay between cities (although AVE is expensive), but that's my point - it's only cities.

[–] TanakaAsuka@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Spain you can totally get the bus to most places, especially touristy places! AVE is expensive but there are budget high speed operators operating now and the bus is cheap. All these options are far cheaper than owning a car (and cheaper than owning a car in a car centric country as well!).

Also those towns that don't have good connections it's mostly poor people living there, so rather than being stuck in cities because they don't own cars, they're stuck in poor rural towns because there is no transit to other places!

[–] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really. Miravet is a famous tourist castle place. You can't get there via public transport from Barcelona or even from Tarragona.

Same for Besalú.

Honestly, Germany is the only place I have been where I felt I could get everywhere by train.