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[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It makes you no more statistically likely to get murdered in one over the other. It may seem counterintuitive on a surface level because 80 is more than 4, but 1 million is also more than 50k.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No it doesn't, because in small towns usually it's domestic violence, in inner cities it's usually gang/drug violence that effects everyone.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And domestic violence only effects... checks notes oh yeah, everyone! Seriously, what kind of argument is that? Are you not aware of how widespread and common domestic violence is in both rural and urban areas and how much it contributes to gun violence and homicide rates?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yea it's about 1-1.5k murders via firearms a year. But it's not something that randomly happens from people you don't know. Gang and drug violence does. I don't know why you seem to think less violence happens in the cities than rural areas. This is just stupid.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand how statistics work.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No I know how they work just fine, you don't understand the nuance of the discussion. You're trying to compare apples to oranges...

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You seem to be under the bizarre impression that gang violence kills different, more special and more numerous people. Statistics show that it doesn't kill more people per capita, it's just that more people in smaller areas will result in more deaths from various types of violence including both gang and domestic, because that's how numbers and statistics and population distributions work. Both gang violence and domestic violence kill people, who are historically, the same as other people and not some unique species who are somehow killed harder or more tragically than another killed person. It's not comparing apples to oranges, it's comparing apples to apples, except the farmer that grew one apple is wearing a different hat and lives in a different county.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It absolutely does kill more people via gun violence than any other group. I don't know what or where you are getting your info from, but the majority of our homicides are gang and drug related. This isn't some unknown thing.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

More proof that you don't understand how statistics work.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Lol ok kid. You find me the statistics that show where the majority of our gun homicides come from... I'm sure it's some bumble fuck rural town in Kansas...and totally not a city.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's not my job to do your research for you when you're too lazy my dude. If you don't understand how population statistics work and how they're affected by a population's distribution then you can google it for yourself. Hint: you might want to start with probability theory.

Also lmao at you trying to call me kid. Honey, I took statistics a while back when I was still in university.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It absolutely is on you. That's how debates work. So either prove me wrong or shut up.

And yes you're a kid who seems to think you have the world figured out.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol you're adorable.

This isn't a "debate", this is just me telling you that you don't know how statistics work. I don't particularly care if you choose to continue on from this conversation remaining cozy in your ignorance, that's your burden to bear. I'm not in the business of giving out free statistics classes.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Lol ok kid, you can keep your ignorance to yourself. It's not my problem you're trying to make statistics say whatever the fuck you want them to, but can't back up the shit you're spewing.