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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't understand how you can say "you have to have a kid even if you can't support it" when it comes to abortion and then say "I don't want my taxes to help pay for your kid's food" when it comes to food assistance. The consequence is obviously going to be food insecurity for kids, why would you not want your tax money to help fix that? 8.4% of US kids are food insecure.

[–] whoami@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Evergreen George Carlin quote: “Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.”

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And then he told people not to vote... Get out and vote people! They do.

[–] whoami@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah his take on that matter was spectacularly off base, even for comedy purposes

[–] Kingofthezyx@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it makes perfect sense when you realize these people view kids as nothing more than instruments of economic growth - forcing parents to work in conditions they don't want to, to make ends meet. And nowadays, even lowering working age and working conditions for the kids themselves to force them to work as well. They are purely pro-capitalism and they want the kids to be forced to be born so there will be a steady supply of meat for the grinder. It's that simple.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe that's what corpos want, but I think the average american Republican is just so braindead hyper-individualistic that they don't quite grasp the consequences of their own philosophy. Seems like it's just "take care of yourself, I don't want to have to hear about you", full stop with 0 consideration for what that actually means.

[–] UpperBroccoli@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You give them far too little credit. Most of these people are not stupid, just often massively confused about what they can allow themselves to say out loud in public without hurting their (re)election chances. They know full well what they are doing, and for whom.

They are fucking evil misantropic fascist shitbags.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I think op is saying that the average American doesn't realize they've been convinced to force babies into existence by corpos highjacking their religious sensibilities. All why not giving a fuck about the children after their born.

[–] Kingofthezyx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I suppose I could have clarified by differentiating between "Republican leaders" and "Republican followers" - the latter group being largely irrelevant to discussion because they'll believe and regurgitate whatever the first group tells them to. So by "they" in this case, I mean billionaires, politicians, and "influencers" of those philosophies

[–] Shush@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that you're looking at it from a common sense view. They don't share it. They just decided this is what they believe in, and will oppose anything else. It doesn't have to make sense for them.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah the reactionaries are definitely a big component of the problem here. Opposing progress in all its forms even if it's oxymorinic to do so.