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Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, a sign of the president’s strength in uniting his party to have the backing of one of its most liberal members

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[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Old man who vaguely agrees with my politics and is just mildly disappointing or a literal shit filled dumpster fire? Hmmm tough choice.

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Status quo keeps on truckin' along.

Rich keep getting richer. Poor people? Well, who cares about them anyway.

[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Use the poors as a cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yes but don't you see? The blue team wins (the presidency).

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How is Biden disappointing? Before he became President he gave every indication of being yet another appeasement-oriented centrist, but he's actually gotten a surprising amount done. Biden has ended up being far better than I expected him to be.

[–] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He literally called Cuba "terrorist" just a few days ago, and did the same for Xi a little while before that. He also kept in place all of trump's international sanctions, and even added new ones on top.

He seems to try really hard to be agitative, I don't understand how someone could see him as "appeasement-oriented".

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cuba and China are authoritarian hell states.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro I am a near-total prison abolitionist, and even I know the difference between a place with poor policies driven by an increasingly dangerous internal threat of authoritarians and countries that regularly disappear dissidents.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

My point wasn't to say that they're one and the same. I just think that any American politician who isn't actively trying to abolish the Department of Homeland Security and permanently repeal the PATRIOT Act has no business condemning authoritarianism. I think that defending Biden or a Democrat for this reinforces the idea that it is somehow different or indicative of something else when we do it vs when China does it.

It reflects a worldview that the US is neutral/good at its core, one that I don't share given what I know about US history. It's barely qualified as a liberal democracy for most of its history/

When book bans happen in the US, western media doesn't frame it as an inevitable outcome in a country with a long history of right-wing nationalism, unlike when book bans happen in China, where it's framed as a product of communism/socialism.

Likewise, the US prison population is framed as a mistake, an error, something that "shouldn't happen" in a "free country", when it's literally a legacy of Jim Crow laws (which themselves get framed in US history/media as a regrettable period, and not something that is inherently a product of the United States' ruling social and political class).

Lastly, the US state of Florida is already practically a single-party regime under Desantis. He's actively trying to purge the Universities down there, which is something straight out of 1930s Germany.

[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What has he gotten done that you support?

I'm pretty disappointed in the Inflation Reduction Act that actually prints a trillion more dollars.

We need inherent change in the government, we need congress to get off their asses and create good bills. We need to get away from the 4th branch of government.

Not print a trillion more $ that goes to government subcontractors and the top 1%

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You listed a lot of legislative issues there. What should the executive branch do for those issues? Veto the Inflation Reduction Act? Not enact bills passed by congress?

[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Executive branch should enforce laws passed by the legislative branch and do what they can to keep us out of more international military conflicts.

The IRA was Biden's baby, it's not that he was silent on the bill then it just happened to cross his desk. The executive should NOT be pushing legislation, the executive branch should NOT be trying to unilaterally pass $1T in debt relief with an executive order and should NOT promote divisiveness.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

do what they can to keep us out of more international military conflicts

Hard disagree. The Pax Americana is the best thing to happen to the geopolitical landscape in all of human history.

Between the dogwhistle about wanting to end our support for Ukraine, and complaining about the IRA-- the largest climate change bill passed by any nation in human history-- because it "cost too much", I'm starting to wonder if the guy you're replying to is on the left at all.

EDIT: Just checked their post history, and yep, they're openly a conservative.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Before I start, let me say that Biden absolutely has my vote, because the alternative is the end of our democracy.

I'll also say he's away better than I thought he'd be.

But here's how he's a disappointment:

  1. He failed to appoint an attorney general that would give us a special prosecutor to go after Trump for the most egregious case of Obstruction of Justice in the history of the country, as laid out in the Mueller report. This was a matter of national security, should have been the first set of indictments against Trump, and should have happened a couple years ago.

  2. Student loans. Our economic engine requires a strong consumer class... Right now two generations of Americans are drowning in debt, and can't buy goods and services from other Americans. It's hurting EVERYBODY. Biden should be aiming to erase ALL student debt. Instead he's taking half-measures that leave the United States still in crisis. And that's BEFORE we talk about how weak his attempt to do this was, from a legal standpoint.

  3. Healthcare. We are still in crisis. The ACA was supposed to be a first step. Instead, it has been the only step, and Republicans continue to attempt to chip away at it. Why hasn't Biden put out a universal healthcare plan? Or at least a public option? How can we ever make progress when he won't even be the standard-bearer for these ideas?

  4. The Supreme Court was captured by fascist theocrats. Any future moderate (to say nothing of liberal) laws will be struck down by these assholes. Why is Biden not talking about packing the court until it once again reflects the values of the overwhelming majority of Americans?

I could go on, but the jist here is that the United States is in absolute crisis, and like Hillary before him, Biden is the "nothing will essentially change" or "incremental change" candidate. Not acceptable during an emergency.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

If you'd told me we could virtually eliminate Russia's army and remove them as a competitor on the world stage for a couple billion bucks with no american troops in 2020 I would have taken that deal any day.

[–] jdsquared@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Now imagine what he could accomplish if the people in this thread who complain so much actually went out and grassroots volunteered and got some progressives elected in their districts.