this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2024
201 points (92.4% liked)
Asklemmy
43970 readers
1153 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Moderate Dems don't want to set the precedent of holding powerful politicians accountable, because moderate Dems are terrified if progressives gain power, they'll hold people accountable regardless of the letter by their name.
That's the whole point of being "moderate" occupying the gray area in-between republicans and progressives. And when Republicans are bat shit insane grifters and progressives honestly aren't asking for anything radical...
Well, moderates aren't exactly going to be great people, at least they don't have to be. I'm sure some are just misguided and genuinely think they're helping.
A bunch of text, all of it unrelated to the question.
Trump lost a civil trial, SBF lost a criminal trial.
You can't be sent to jail for breaking civil laws.
So do you think Trump broke no laws doing that stuff?
Because he did.
If you want the explanation on why he had a civil and not a criminal trial, refer to that "bunch of text unrelated to the question".
Sometimes I forget different people need different amounts spelled out for them. I'm sorry I skipped a step and that caused you to become confused.
Your comment proves you don't understand what's happening. At all.
Trump defamed someone. That's a civil issue. He was put on trial. On a civil trial. Because it's a civil issue. He lost. He got fined. Not sent to jail. Because it's a civil trial.
This isn't about the trial he lost from raping Jean Carroll. This is about Trump lost a trial about defrauding banks and insurance companies.
Bankman Fried defrauded banks, was put on criminal trial and was sent to jail Trump defrauded banks but was only put on civil trial resulting in a fine.
My bad, of course, not sure why the defamation trial was still in my head.
SBF engaged in things like securities fraud as well, which is harder to spin into a civil thing I guess.
My bet on why they decided to go the civil route is that Trump has the money to make things right (if he will that's another thing), and SBF has nothing.
So they've just decided to go the "better for everybody" route, since, well, it's better for everybody.
Why New York state is suing Trump instead of charging him with crimes
So the answer is: it's easier to win, it's easier to punish Trump & they can still file criminal charges after a successful civil case if more crimes are uncovered.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-fraud-letitia-james-new-york-engoron-38bc3a7f2ccb22555c026e9bf70fd5bbp
Crazy someone hasn't heard of that, or did you forget?
You literally don't know what's happening bro
Oh yeah, we're talking about the New York Trump corp trial :)
In that case, here's a nice explanation why a criminal trial wouldn't make sense and why a civil one is much better for everyone