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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I hate Elon but love the idea of this. The utopian version, not the dystopian version obviously.

We are really going to have to make sure that regulation is solid if we want to go towards the positive utopian version.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no utopian version of this.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No amount of regulation will ever make this safe or reasonable. You're literally installing a suicide bomb in your brain which can be hacked at any point, or abused by any state. Regulation serves to discourage and punish undesired behavior - doesn't stop it.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

Bring back ~~audio~~ brain jacks!

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Same, being able to do things with your mind would be wonderful but if it comes with cost of potentially handing your own killswitch to ketaminecrazed billionaire.. (or anyone). If the device isnt 100% opensource so anyone can see how it works, there is no way to know what it can do. And even if we assume it wont be used in overtly malicious way, being able to physically affects someone's brain( be it reading or writing) means being able to absolutely control of someone.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

They're not being manipulated, though. You can tell because 100% of Neuralink users feel they're not being manipulated at all and that their absolutely fanatical devotion to the company is because it, and its founder Galactic President Musk, are just that great!

[–] m13@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no utopian version as long as we maintain the capitalist system. How long do you think “regulations” can stand against the profit incentive of every conceivable greedy ghoul out there?

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ok, the solution is to abolish capitalism then, and I'm more than fine with that.

[–] m13@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, literally.

Without capitalism we would be free to build any cool technology we desire, with the only motivation being the benefit of humanity and improvement of our daily lives.

Capitalism is a wasteful and nonsensical system that will only guarantee the enslavement and annihilation of human life.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree 100%. It wouldn't be easy though. Humans are inherently selfish and greedy. I believe a large minority are borderline sociopathic as well, whether its inherited or learned idk. We need a system that really punishes and limits sociopathic behavior.

Unfortunately but accurately, capitalism rewards sociopathic behavior exponentially, to the point where you have to at least act sociopathic in your decision making to have a very large scale successful business, or at least never/rarely make altruistic decisions. Otherwise, you'll be priced out by competition that does make the more sociopathic decisions (lower pay for workers, dangerous work environments, whatever to cut costs, etc.).

I dont know how we fix this, but it's certainly time for capitalism to die or be reigned in significantly.

[–] m13@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It’s an unfortunately common misconception that humans are inherently selfish and greedy.

Like you stated Capitalism rewards sociopathic behaviour.

Humans learn and adapt to the systems they live under.

Selfishness and greed is enforced under the capitalist system.

You should check our Peter Kropotkin’s ‘Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution’ for an alternate take which sounds like you’re already on board with.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

even if it were completely F/OSS including the hardware I'm as afraid of a brain accident as I am of someone purposely doing awful shit to my brain. I want what you want too, it's just that there's no world in which that happens.