Oh I clicked the link, mate, and read through a couple links deep. What I'm saying is that my understanding of the license is that it allows permissions for a restricted item, but it does not restrict an item with open permissions. You know what I mean? You need to be a rights holder of something that is protected by copyright or the like, and then you can use this license to open permissions in certain ways, in this case that the item can be used for non-commercial means. So this wouldn't work with stuff on Lemmy, right?

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

People have been telling them that for months.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also text can be restricted. Just because a newpapers publishes an article to public without a paywall, doesn't mean the text is without copyright. Additionally, it's not necessary to be a registered, commercial entity in order to be a rights holder. Somebody who makes a video of an event has the right and ability to sell it to news broadcasters. It doesn't have to a freelancer or a TV studio - any private person may do so.

Of course, this all changes per jurisdiction and we're on the internet, which makes things even more complicated.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[–] flamingarms 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You say it's a copyright license, and I think that's exactly where I'm struggling with this. My understanding is that this is a license for something copyrighted or otherwise protected. Copyright protects things from their creation. A copyright license provides certain people action that would otherwise be denied by copyright. So are you saying that your understanding is that what we write here on Lemmy is copyrighted, with authors holding the rights? That would be helpful to know because that has not been my understanding of copyright (and I know country plays an important role here), so that would be interesting to look into.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So are you saying that your understanding is that what we write here on Lemmy is copyrighted, with authors holding the rights?

Yes, that's exactly it.

Services often do have:

you grant us a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, distribute, and display such user content

But, I don't know how that plays out in different jurisdictions, which license those services redistribute the content as, and so on. That's for the copyright lawyers to figure out.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[–] flamingarms 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah gotcha; that's helpful. That's not been my understanding of this content, so I'll have to look into that, thanks.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I may be wrong as I'm not a lawyer, but that's just my understanding 🙂 Who knows. Have a good day!

[–] flamingarms 2 points 8 months ago

Likewise!

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

So are you saying that your understanding is that what we write here on Lemmy is copyrighted, with authors holding the rights?

Yes, that's exactly it.

Dude you are living in a dream world. You have the same thought process as sovereign citizens.