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plspls_pls_ stop calling each other fascists or astroturfers unless you have a thorough understanding of the uncommitted movement and what u.s. primaries are. there is so much blatant misunderstanding and misinfo going on it’s bad.

edit: if any loser dares call for an uncommitted vote in the general election? i will kick them in the balls (gender neutral) (in minecraft)

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[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Fuck bottoming for Biden and Trump. If you vote Biden, you're enabling genocide. Kind regards, rest of the world.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

A moral dilemma doesn't go away if you close your eyes.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 8 months ago

Forgive me if, when presented with the trolley problem and the person on track b would die anyways if I did not pull the lever, if I pulled that lever instead of ignoring everything and/or jumping off a cliff. The political situation is bleak here, and the machine is designed to keep Americans placated, disenfranchised, and generally apathetic. We don't have coalition voting. We don't have ranked choice, and it's even banned in certain states! If there's a proper alternative to Biden in this country, that information has to be disseminated to hundreds of millions and convince them to change their vote. It's possible that someone could come along but they'd have to work fast I sure as hell don't see anyone with that kind of rallying power. Do you have any suggestions on who I should vote for?.. Because my choice is first and foremost in the interest of overall harm reduction in whatever practical terms that can actually be accomplished in this country.

Declining to vote in this system is, effectively, silently endorsing whoever gets in; it signals that you're ok with everything, or at least it gets interpreted that way by politicians 100x more than any sort of "protest" effect you think not voting will achieve. Literally if you don't vote for a politician why should they care what the fuck you think? One party doesn't even want us voting at all because it means they can give less of a fuck about us! Frankly, I don't want to see the orange man in office again, and he will be worse than even self-professed Zionist Joe on matters pertaining to the rest of the world. Again, I'm open to an alternative if you can give me one that's not sticking my head in the sand or some fetishistic "revolution" way too many people pine for without having a single ounce of solidarity in their real lives.

[–] Spost@slrpnk.net 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What if you don't vote for Biden, what happens then?

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Drumft will turn it into genocide+

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Then every Tennessee elector still votes for Trump.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you don't vote for Biden, you're okay with a Trump victory.

Kind regards, sane people.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dear rest of the world, why haven't you stopped it? And don't say anything about a nonbinding UN resolution.

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

If it wasn't for the overpowered military industrial complex and veto in the security council, I'm pretty sure we'd have a no fly zone and democratic transition in the US by now.

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So many years I've heard Americans complain, rightly so, about the duopoly farming your insecurities for profits. Each cycle the duopoly gets worse and worse. Again we're at a point where it seems they can't stoop any lower, and again most seemingly progressive Americans suddenly become incredibly pragmatist, excusing genocide, destruction of the environment, war in Europe, cold war 2.0, because "the alternative is worse". Fuck that from the rest of the world that has to live under your megalomanic geriatric child killing leaders. You need to find a solution, and voting for the lesser evil just ain't it, because it is already so incredible destructive and outright barbarian. Make a third way, engage Trump voters on their home turf, make a revolution, I don't care, just leave us the fuck alone. Thank you.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

Can I vote for Biden and also do all of those things too?