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‘It was so wrong’: why were so many people imprisoned over one protest in Bristol? (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 8 months ago by Fudoshin to c/uk_politics

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[–] mannycalavera 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hows that Kiwi shoe polish taste?

🫠 I can't believe I'm being murdered by words on an internet forum for saying people shouldn't burn cars. It's madness, I know.

I will continue to direct my fuck offs your way.

Good for you 😊. If that makes you feel like you're doing something go for it. Other users only exist so that you can vent your frustrations with abusing language. Yup, that's absolutely the point of this forum...... I think 🤔?

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, the moderate urge to value politeness above justice.

You made up a scenario that's not in the article to justify the 14 years someone is losing from their life.

If you support a just society you can't also support harsh sentencing with the purpose of "sending a message". Every regime in history has criminalized descent, and sentencing a person to 14 fucking years in prison for supposedly pushing burning trash at a cop car is trying to send a message.

At least open the article.

[–] mannycalavera 3 points 8 months ago

You made up a scenario that's not in the article to justify the 14 years someone is losing from their life.

Nope. If you you simply use Google you can find the information with a little comprehension and reading.

He was convicted of attempted arson with intent to endanger life for trying to set a police van alight.

Roberts was also found guilty of attempted arson being reckless as to whether life was endangered, for trying to set a second police van alight with seven officers inside.

He told an officer inside one of the vans he would "go bang".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-59705203

And if you don't like the BBC (because I'm guessing it's "the biased state media arm of the British government" 😉) here's the Guardian on the same hearing.

The 25-year-old, who had taken cocaine and been drinking, then smashed windows of the police station, Bristol crown court was told.

Roberts, of no fixed address, was also caught on film pushing pieces of flaming cardboard under two police vans and placing industrial bins around an already partially burnt-out police car and setting them alight. He told an officer inside one of the vans he would “go bang”.

He smashed in the windows of a mobile police station and encouraged the crowd to help roll it over, before setting light to the cab while hundreds of people were close by.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/17/ryan-roberts-bristol-kill-the-bill-protest-jailed

If you support a just society you can't also support harsh sentencing with the purpose of "sending a message".

Harsh sentencing is pretty subjective. Your harsh is another's fair. You simply aren't the arbiter of that because you weren't the judge doing the sentencing at the trial. He or she doesn't pull sentences out of their arse, there's sentencing guidelines they need to follow.

Anyway it was fun chatting to you. ☺️