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Unmoderated and now extremely delayed federation - is it time to move? (kbin.social)

submitted 8 months ago by Seraph@kbin.social to c/kbin@kbin.social

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First, I think Ernest has done a fantastic job and I've been rooting for him this whole time. But it's becoming clear it's all too much for him without the support of a larger team.

Over the last several months there have been multiple posts about the spam problems on this instance, both here and on other instances. We've been fortunate so far they haven't simply defederated us.

Now when I go to the Hot page it's 12 hours out of date.

It's with a heavy heart I looked into a kbin fork mentioned in another thread in this magazine: Mbin.

GitHub: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin

Instance list: https://fedidb.org/software/mbin

The largest instance: https://fedia.io/

I'll miss you Kbin. It's been good. Thanks Ernest!

It's not the purpose of this post to support any particular instance. Feel free to mention your own alternatives below.

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[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

the site has gone down or partially not worked repeatedly for months now.

Oh please. This site never worked without a hitch. Come on over and have some fun in Taking Covid Seriously or Fagville if-and-when a page refreshes.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This site never worked without a hitch.

That is not a ringing endorsement.

I was very enthusiastic about kbin when it launched, I donated a fair bit to Ernest in those early heady days. But if he's refusing to accept help from other devs and admins I don't think it's sustainable, something like this just can't work as a one-man show. I wish him all the best but if that doesn't change I don't see this working in the long run.

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is not a ringing endorsement.

The site is just as good as it was when it was good enough for me to start using it and hasn't gotten worse.

I have posted endorsements which ring better elsewhere.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It has been getting worse for me. In addition to the sporadic outages, the spam, and the slow federation, I've had to develop the habit of refreshing the page before I try to respond to or vote on any comments. If I open the page and let it sit for a few minutes before trying I invariably get an error. It definitely didn't used to be that way.

If it was that bad for you from the outset I'm surprised you stuck around. I wouldn't've. I've only held on because I started to feel "settled".

[–] s0ckpuppet@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Yep I get that comment/post error pretty frequently as well

[–] s0ckpuppet@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I get where you're coming from, but don't really agree that because it's been bad it's fine that it continues to be bad or even worse when these are solvable problems. The issue with recent posts federating in a timely fashion is pretty concerning for one.

But even if I did agree with you about the site errors, the huge gaps in any communication are a big issue. It'd be great to know what's going on. And not being able to get an account deletion honored is frankly unacceptable. I've had one pending for close to a month. And having the entire project tied up with one person who just disappears without warning is also a big problem. Administering this instance all by one's self is already impractical. But doing that and also single-handedly running a software project of this complexity and magnitude on top of that is really hard to rationalize.

Anybody remember what happened Artemis? All that effort and community support poured into an app with a single dev holding the whole thing together and poof. She's gone and the app is no more. I still don't think anybody's heard from her since.

Huge props to him for what he's achieved, but Ernest needs to accept help. It's that simple.