I thought I was an Auth-Left, but turns out I'm a Lib Left? Am I allowed here in lemmygrad.ml? And what idealogical learning, unlearning and changes I should make to myself?
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Looks like you're a political scorpio. Avoid any fire signs (Aries, Leo, Sagittarius), air signs (Gemini, Libra, Aquarius), and Marxist-Leninist-Maoists (MLM).
Wait but the Honorable Comrade of Political Scorpio is allowed to come into contact with Trots... are you sure this is wise, can you consult the stars agian?
It really depends on the time of their birth, what the moon and all those guys were doing, and how the furniture was arranged in their hospital room. A lib-left Scorpio could only mesh well with a water sign Trotskyite. You get a fire or air Trotskyite in the same room as a water and that's why it always splits.
Wait what? And I don't like trotskyism! I mean, I don't agree trotskyists! And what's with signs and political ideologies? I still don't get you, or convinced with your elaboration!
What was the moon up to on your birthday? You don't need to tell me your birthday, just give me the coordinates and percentages. Then I'll be able to tell you whether or not you'd get along with most Trotskyites or if you're stuck with anarchism.
I don't have that data, and I don't feel like to know! But you seem pretty knowledgeable in these calculations. So what's the hypothesis behind it? How can you say all these stuff?
I think they're just joking lol
They're making a joke about political compass tests being about as meaningful and accurate as astrology, they're not making fun of you, just the political compass stuff being completely useless.
EDIT: I didn't see Happybadger's explanation below.
Classic Ophiuchus behavior, thinking astrology is a joke like this
/s
The moon was ascendent in the fifth quadrant by 46% for me, but it was a long labour; by the time my feet were out, it was down again to 34% at 57° of the third signal. I think that's why I'm such a lib, tbh, but what can I do? The heavens are either aligned or they're not, and for me, they were not 😔
Sir, what does that mean? I'm genuinely asking. I don't believe in zodiac/astrology
That all metaphysics is equal. You're lib-left, I'm auth-left. You're a political INTJ and I'm a political ENFP. You're a political indigo child and I'm a political empath. All of it is some grifter selling you their special mystical ruleset that they've somehow figured out, but they're just obfuscating some actual system to be predatory. The political compass exists solely so that Nazis can post on the same subreddit as humans without the latter seeing that trick because they're just quirky little dots on the same confirmation bias chart. A kind-hearted liberal wouldn't post on /pol/ or Stormfront because they can clearly see that it's a Nazi shithole for Nazis, but they'll entertain those same posters on PCM because they're both members of the same special metaphysical system.
Ohhh, so there's this much background information regarding this? I never knew, but I never had the feelings to post in polcom when I used to be in reddit. So, all of it is basically made up?
It's all made up to split the left, recuperate people's semi-radical impulses into centrism and right-wing beliefs, and give right-wingers a platform to radicalise people who otherwise wouldn't let them post there. It's the reason that things like hippies/magic/conspiracy theories are powerful tools for right-wingers and the Thule Society was a major engine of the Nazis like Qanon is the modern right.
What it's obscuring for us is really just organising strategies. The communist and anarchist projects have the same ultimate result. Anarchists think that is best achieved through people organically forming democratic structures that replace the state, like a network of mutual aid militias and communes and councils and unions. Communists think that is best achieved through people organically forming a political party out of their shared interests as workers and using it to replace the state, like a network of mutual aid militias and communes and councils and unions with a specific set of goals and a plan to achieve them. Both result in a classless, democratic society. Both require organised violence to get there. Both provoke a counterrevolutionary response that will have to be suppressed. But I as a Marxist just spent yesterday cooking for the anarchist Food Not Bombs org because they do the exact same thing that the Marxist Black Panther Party saw as the path to revolution. The big disagreement is just how you think that scales up best and whether it requires hierarchy to stay organised.
With the political compass it's saying that despite us having the same policy goals and broadly the same positions, you should entertain libertarians and I should entertain fascists because we somehow share a common impulse with them too. Both get a platform as a result despite them being variations of the same toxic groups nobody would want to associate with otherwise.
Thanks. Really well explained. Thanks for sharing this.
The political compass is about as scientific as astrology, is what this person is saying. Don't worry so much about labels, especially ones defined by reactionaries.
Ohh ok, that's soothing. Thanks. I deep down agree with great communist leaders and their ideals, so, when my results came out as lib-left, who are usually trolled and criticised by auth-left (afaik), I was shocked!