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[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I mean it's quite unlikely that you would born again even as a human considering of many living organisms there are on earth. Then considering how many planets there are with life that we just don't know about. You will most likely just start living as some weird ass worm in outer space

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You assume the rules of reincarnation are equal chance to be any organism. What if only intelligent beings are in the pool of potential reincarnation options?

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well define intelligence. Animals show signs of feelings, even trees have been studied to warn other trees about dangers, and tomatoes yell when you cut them.

There's a lot more intelligence than just being able to be human. And we still don't know if there are even hundreds of species that are more intelligent than us.

And also the same principles of living work for every species even if we think they are dumb, and they keep getting born so why would it be limited to only something we see as even almost equal?

This is just my own theory for the fact that somehow we started controlling this body in the first place, so likely it will happen again. I'm not believing in some major religion theories about good and bad and how you get better afterlife you be good

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago

Ok, how about you can only reincarnate into the same species as you were before?

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This argument reminds me of the distinction between wisdom and intelligence. Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting a tomato in a fruit salad.

The same logic applies here. Sure, a tree can be seen as intelligent in some aspects but I'm sure if you asked 100 people to list the most intelligent organisms in the forest, few would say "the trees". I personally would define intelligent beings as those that fit in the top end of an intelligence standard distribution curve.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay but how is intelligence measured?

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Until a better method is discovered, it would probably be best to measure by # of neurons in the organism's cerebral cortex.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that put blue whales at the top? Don't get me wrong they're pretty smart

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Being some weird ass space worm would be cool.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Reincarnation, at least Hinduism or Buddhism I think, is deterministic, i.e. doesn't reborn randomly into any living creatures. If they die as a nice person, they will be reincarnated as a better person; if they die as bad person, they will be reincarnated as a lesser person, or an animal or smaller creatures, depending on the severity of their wrongdoings.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I disagree with this. I think humans are at the bottom. Good people get reincarnated as animals, and the peak is coming back as a manatee.

[–] 15liam20@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Would help a lot if you're down with fascist dystopias.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Call me Leto II.