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[–] Blackmist 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

So why is it rejected?

Just because they're still trying to use HDMI to prevent piracy? Who in fuck's name is using HDMI capture for piracy? On a 24fps movie, that's 237MB of data to process every second just for the video. A 2 hour movie would be 1.6TB. Plus the audio would likely be over 2TB.

I've got a Jellyfin server packed with 4K Blu-ray rips that suggest there are easier ways to get at that data.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The CEO's of the media companies are all fucking dinosaurs who still think VCRs should have been made illegal. You will never convince them that built in copy protection is a dumb idea and a waste of time.

[–] SuddenlyMelissa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where are they finding dinosaurs to fuck that know what a VCR is?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Mine can barely work the TV remote!

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can't you compress what the HDMI outputs in real time so that it would have a normal size?

[–] Blackmist 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure. But why bother when you can rip it right from the disc in higher quality than you could ever hope to capture in real time?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

All I can think of would be capturing a live broadcast of something airing on TV, and only on TV. Which... Has to be pretty rare these days. And you still have better methods to capture even that!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 9 months ago

HDMI Splitter + capture card.

No video put on a streaming service produced in the next 40 years will need HDMI 2.1 to display.

[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Even despite that HDMI capture is simply an awful way of obtaining that data, it's even more pathetic when that "protection" can be defeated by a $30 capture card on Amazon...

[–] lengau@midwest.social 4 points 9 months ago

The profiles HDMI 2.1 enables are even worse - 4k@120fps type stuff. Not exactly something needed for a movie.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Most people don't pirate 4K media due to file size and internet speed constraints. Most people pirate 1080p video. There's also the prospect of people pirating live television, which HDMI capture would be perfect for.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

The raw images are that big, but they're compressed (even losslessly) to a fraction of the size.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then most people need get a better ISP. My crappy $60/mo fixed 5G can download an entire 4K film in under 10 minutes or start streaming it within a second. Y'all should see if there are any options beyond cable and DSL in your town. You might be pleasantly surprised what's available these days.

[–] nymwit@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Is that not a compressed stream though? Genuinely asking. A 4k blu ray rip and a 4k stream from a service (or whatever it saves for offline viewing on an app) a pretty different. I think things are getting conflated with capturing live 4k television and capturing a 4k blu ray as it plays, which both might be using an HDMI cable.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I use Stremio and only stream full 4K Blu Ray rips, with HDR and Dolby Atmos and all. So nothing is recompressed. 50-70GB files but it starts streaming almost instantly.

I have a poor 5G signal due to a tree that's blocking my view of the antenna, so I get anywhere between 400Mbps and 1400Mbps (I'm supposed to get a gigabit but it's usually closer to 500). Even with a poor signal it's still way faster than any other ISP in my town.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Any good sources on those rips? You can pm of it helps

[–] Blackmist 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I just use the trusty old Radarr stack to find them. Pulls from https://1337x.to/ https://thepiratebay.org/ and https://therarbg.to/ on my set up.

You have to get there early to have much chance of getting a full 60GB+ 4K Blu-ray rip in a timely manner, but the ~15GB x265 rips are indistinguishable to me.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Recently become a fan of kickasstorrents, they usually have a x265 version with a bunch of blu-ray extras and Prowlarr already knows who they are.

[–] Presently42@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

They're back? Thought they closed years ago

[–] Blackmist 1 points 9 months ago

I'll have to add them to the list.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 9 months ago

Is therarbg safe? The original rarbg closed one or two years ago.

Also, don't forget torrent private trackers. They're harder to get in (signups are usually closed, or you need an invite from someone who's already in), but they're very good!

Lots of hight quality content, well organized, usually with many seeds.

Of course you need to follow their rules and seed enough.

Usenet is also a surprisingly good way to find content, but you'll need to pay both an indexer and a server.

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You can pirate media that uses that new blu ray drm by plugging a capture card into the overpriced compatible DVD player and recording the video. Also, it's a way to transfer saved content from a dvr as their hard drives are always encrypted (do those still exist). The video stream on all this stuff is encrypted with hdcp to prevent this but there exist hdcp strippers. It seems to still be possible to buy them even on Amazon. Stock up before they get banned. Frankly I'm surprised they aren't banned already.