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[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That’s a bad move for NATO since Putin just had a speech where he said if NATO drops troops in Ukraine he will use nukes.

[–] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but NATO controllers has been doing desperate instead of sane for a long time. Why bring the world to retaliatory nuke situation?

That's a bad move for everyone.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 6 months ago

They’re hungry for mutually assured destruction at the expenses of everyone who didn’t consent to this and it’s terrifying.

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He didn't mean he would use nukes, just that war between two nuclear armed countries necessarily escalates to nuclear war. If you asked Biden, he would say the same thing. Which is why it's so irresponsible for the West to be arming Ukraine like they have been, tempting fate

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 6 months ago

I don’t know, I guess reading between the lines it sounds like he would use them but I’m more than willing to be wrong. Then again I’m the type who doesn’t want to poke the bear, unlike NATO it seems. I think being in a NATO country also increases the anxiety around nuclear retaliation. We don’t have nukes but what’s truly stopping them from being dropped here? I’m not a fan of our leaders putting our lives on the line knowing they have bunkers to hide in…

[–] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

honestly think he's bluffing at this point. why would he use nukes and risk reprisal when Russia is honestly in a better state military production wise than NATO?

edit: to be clear, I would really rather not find out lol

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope he’s bluffing but when it comes to these matters it seems you have to take it seriously. Threats like these don’t work if you believe they won’t follow through on it. I only say this because we learned about nuclear war strategies in my PoliSci class yesterday and my professor mentioned this Putin speech. He seems quite worried about escalation and so am I.

[–] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think we're on the same page, I'm not happy about the west continuing to try and provoke russia lol

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 months ago

We definitely are on the same page, I just talk to talk :)