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Was just talking at dinner with family, and it seems a logical action to ban circumcision, as in most cases, doesn't have consent, and is a major (genitals are important) body modification. Can we ban it at the state level? Just a thought.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

On one hand I oppose circumcision, on the other hand I think we’re getting far too comfortable letting politicians ban medical procedures.

My alternative perspective is no surgery on someone too young to request it unless it cannot wait until they’re old enough to do so.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kids can't get plastic surgery even if they wanted to, but can get circumcised even if nobody asked them? It's just dumb.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can't cosmetic surgeries can range from things like circumcision, fixing a deviated septum, and something like botox? They're often not seen as "necessary," but they can be recommended to improve quality of life. I think this gets conflated because maybe breast implants do drastically improve someone's quality of life, but doctors (I think) should err on the side of having a patient wait for more permanent procedures. It's still between the doctor and patient, ultimately, but in cases where a kid can't consent there can be valid arguments. I don't think circumcision meets that threshold a majority of the time, and even when it does it can usually wait.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Circumcision is irreversible mutilation of genitals forced by religion. At least Christians just dunk you in water.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bruh. America cuts 80% of their junk, looky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision

Pretty fucked up actually, not to mention i bet they charge you between two and ten thousand dollars to do it, too.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but it's not forced by religion - it primarily got started in the US because the guy who invented corn flakes though it would keep boys from masturbating because it reduces sensation. He also had a procedure for girls (involving scarring the clit with acid) but that didn't catch on and even if it had would be very illegal now because we actually care about protecting girls.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You do realize that the Torah, the book that gives the penis chopping instructions, is included in the Old Testament, right? This whole non-consensual penis mutilation tradition is definitely a Christian practice, too.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

To be fair, in the new testament, Jesus basically tells the Christians that they don't have to follow all of the old testament, so not all Christian denominations practice it. Still, some sects just ignore the good Jesus stuff, in general. A lot of Christians in the US still have the procedure done to their kids, but it's mainly for cosmetic reasons, nowadays.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

no its not for the same reason why christian don't eat kosher meals. Basically that was part of the old contract with god and the new contract does not include circumcision. That's why it was rare in christian communities

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cosmetic or optional surgery should be the choice of the patient