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[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You equivocated between the two as if they are both lock step voting the same on all legislation

I did no such thing. You asked when they ever agree, implying that they never do, and I gave several examples of them agreeing on some pretty bad legislation. Maybe you're confusing me with someone else. This was our first interaction.

you had to go back to W W 2

No I didn't. SOPA and the DMCA were a few years ago. Patriot act gets renewed every few years with bipartisan support. KOPA is brand new. You're latching onto the oldest example I gave because it fits your narrative and ignoring the others. Stop that. It makes you look like a dipshit.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I misspoke. It's expected that some bills will pass with bilateral support. It would be crazy if that never happened. The issue is the Dems are a big tent with many contrasting perspectives. The Gop is lockstep on almost every bill (except lately they are starting to fracture). What I was aiming to express is that overall, if I was to compare every bill pushed forward by the Democrats compared to their Gop counterparts, it would paint a very clear picture of where they diverge policy wise. That's all.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The issue is the Dems are a big tent with many contrasting perspectives. The Gop is lockstep on almost every bill (except lately they are starting to fracture).

The reason why the GOP is always lockstep is because they don't allow self criticism within their party. This makes them legislatively powerful, but it also makes them prone to fascism.

The reason we have to allow self criticism within the democratic party is because it is a big tent party. Without allowing politically disadvantaged groups within the party to point out its internal contradictions, the progressiveness party will stagnate. Instead its leadership will be consolidated with those who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Namely the older members whose idea of political progress is stuck the 90's.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Everything you said is correct. I don't mind criticism within the Democratic party if its constituents actually showed up to vote (in local or federal elections). The other side shows up regardless who's on the ballot, as proven by the current frontrunner for the Gop. Meanwhile, Dems have to hold their noses tell each other how they'll sit this one out because Biden is just not radical enough as the Trump's cabinet guts the EPA and demolishes every institution and value. In four years Trump's cabinet stacked almost all the lower circuit courts with republican judges. All these downstream effects from one administration have consequences.