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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Am I the only one that thinks this is the wrong decision? She's British and is our responsibility.

Let's say someone is born and raised in America to Canadian parents. Then as a child they move to Belfast and join the IRA. Britian says "America what the fuck you sending terrorist over here for" then America goes "That person is a terrorist, we revoke their citizenship so it's not our problem now it's yours".

The real truth of the matter is UK has a problem with immigration from certain parts of the world and with certain groups in the UK. The soon we face up to that the sooner we can do something about it.

Begum joining ISIS as a child is a failing of the UK.

[–] Devi@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're not alone at all. She fucked up, but she was groomed. She was 19 years old at the end of the islamic state, and she's only 24 now.

If the British government have evidence she committed crimes then cool, bring her back and put her on trial. If not then they have no case.

You can't make someone stateless for being a twat when they were 15.

[–] Flax_vert 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

being a twat when they were 15.

She literally joined ISIS....

[–] Devi@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Not exactly, she went to live in the islamic state after being told it was a safe place for muslims, when she was facing discrimination and abuse in the UK. Her friend told her that everyone there was happy and that the rumours were all lies. Those messages have been released as part of her case.

[–] Evia@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Who hasn't made fucked up choices when they were 15? Especially having been groomed, we should be apologising for having failed her.

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Huh? The Canadian American example doesn't match the Begum case. It would make sense if they went back to the US from the UK then the US revoked her citizenship because she's Canadian.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Currently she isn't in the UK and she is stateless, she never had any other citizenship other than British.

Either way surely it's the British fault for bringing in people that will have terrorist children AND for failing to look after a child and allowing her to be a terrorist.

What has Bangladesh done to be responsible for this mess?

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The real truth of the matter is UK has a problem with immigration ~~from certain parts of the world and with certain groups in the UK.~~

Mate, people from the north don't even like southerners moving up there.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

That's a financial inequality thing. That's not a clash of cultures thing.