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Hillary Clinton is warning about the legality of birth control in the wake of a decision by the Alabama Supreme Court that found frozen embryos created through fertility treatments are children under state law.

“They came for abortion first. Now it’s [in vitro fertilization], and next it’ll be birth control,” the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee and secretary of State said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

“The extreme right won’t stop trying to exert government control over our most sacred personal decisions until we codify reproductive freedom as a human right,” Clinton added.

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[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That's what I'm planning on doing. People will be able to see my vote for a 3rd party or write in candidate. I'm not going to reward Biden for refusing to compromise with leftists and progressives. Moderates are the majority voting bloc and got him elected in the 2020 primaries. They will take the lions share of the responsibility when he loses in the 2024 general.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

So you'll help elect Trump to show everyone how pure you are and then tell the moderates it was their fault? That sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Trump WILL hurt you and the causes you care about in a worse and more permanent way than the alternative. Yes the choices are shit. There's still a meaningful choice.

Edit: Maybe a better way to ask the question would be what would you need to be able to sign on to the less shitty choice, keeping in mind that too much leaning in your direction will shear off the more conservative moderates at the other end of the Democratic coalition. There is strength in unity. Unions teach us that.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

90% of these people are right wing trolls, trying to repeat the 2016 GOP traitor's playbook. The more you engage with them, the more opportunities they have to spread this nonsense.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that's right. I don't mean to feed the trolls so thanks for the prompt. I just figure some might just be young, immortal, angry, traumatized and idealistic and not able to appreciate the negative consequences of their proposed actions.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So you’ll help elect Trump to show everyone how pure you are and then tell the moderates it was their fault?

As someone who is a part of a wing which is too small for moderates to bother compromising with it's impossible for me to help Trump. Moderates have been very clear that my views and vote don't matter. Are they wrong?

That sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Have you said that to moderates who refuse to compromise with leftists and progressives?

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is strength in unity.

What unity? There were a wide range of progressive and leftist candidates running in the primaries. Moderates said "fuck all that we're going with this old guy who's gonna block strikes and support genocide".

Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists or progressives.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just hope some semblance of democracy can continue as imperfect as it is.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Then you best get on the moderates for being uncompromising pieces of shit.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Michael Caine

Tags: criminals, evil, insanity, the-dark-knight

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is clearly the moderates holding the party hostage here...

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

They're the majority voting bloc in the party. That means they hold the lion's share of the responsibility yes.