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/r/programming came back up two days ago and as far as I can tell everything relating to the blackout was wiped. I kinda expected it since spez was admin.

Another thing that surprised me was how much chatGPT bot spam there is (danm it is so so bad, wonder what the mods are doing over there.... ah yes, spez).

I used to sort by hot so it was hidden away a bit for me before.

Anyways I hope Lemmy does not fall into the same pitfalls!

goes back into lurk mode

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[–] snaptastic@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s the point of those bots? There’s no karma to farm on Lemmy.

[–] nous@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is the point in farming karma at all?

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can sell high karma accounts to spammers.

[–] nous@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Spammers don't want high karma accounts, they want higher valued accounts. Karma is just one (very easy to gain and view) indication of value. The lack of karma does not mean that spammers wont want to buy accounts on the Lemmy, just that the metrics they used to judge a valuable account are different and less transparent.

[–] snaptastic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The accounts with high karma end up getting sold to businesses that want to use them to advertise (but make it look like grass roots support).

[–] nous@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

They want high valued accounts, karma is just one measure of that. Removing the karma from accounts does not remove the value of those accounts. Just changes what metrics are used to judge value. So there is still an incentive to create bots that try to create valued accounts even if those accounts are not actually creating valued content. The only question is what will businesses see as a valued account.

Though I do think removing karma is a positive as it forcing them to work a bit harder.