this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
33 points (100.0% liked)

Daystrom Institute

3455 readers
1 users here now

Welcome to Daystrom Institute!

Serious, in-depth discussion about Star Trek from both in-universe and real world perspectives.

Read more about how to comment at Daystrom.

Rules

1. Explain your reasoning

All threads and comments submitted to the Daystrom Institute must contain an explanation of the reasoning put forth.

2. No whinging, jokes, memes, and other shallow content.

This entire community has a “serious tag” on it. Shitposts are encouraged in Risa.

3. Be diplomatic.

Participate in a courteous, objective, and open-minded fashion. Be nice to other posters and the people who make Star Trek. Disagree respectfully and don’t gatekeep.

4. Assume good faith.

Assume good faith. Give other posters the benefit of the doubt, but report them if you genuinely believe they are trolling. Don’t whine about “politics.”

5. Tag spoilers.

Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.

6. Stay on-topic.

Threads must discuss Star Trek. Comments must discuss the topic raised in the original post.

Episode Guides

The /r/DaystromInstitute wiki held a number of popular Star Trek watch guides. We have rehosted them here:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

For example, the Federation's founding members (Tellarites, Andorians, Vulcans, Humans) were the subject of fan theories and "fanon" for many years before the ENT writers made it official. One of the interesting (and fun) aspects of this recent wave of series has been seeing the writers increasingly add nods to fan theories and pieces of fanon lore over the years. What are some good examples of this?

And relatedly: what's a fan theory, or piece of fanon, that you suspect the current writers believe, even if they haven't explicitly stated it on-screen?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The use of "warp bubble" as a synonym for "warp field" is a piece of fanon that only popped up in a series with the first season of Strange New Worlds.

I find this one troublesome, as this tends to be a stepping stone to treating the warp drive as an Alcubierre drive, when historically it hasn't really been portrayed that way.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that true? I could swear I have a memory of Geordi describing it as a bubble at some point on TNG. Then again I also spent a lot of time looking through Rick Sternbach and Dennis Okuda's TNG Technical Manual back in the day, so maybe I just absorbed it and incorporated it from there.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe the only "warp bubble" that we see in TNG is the anomaly that Wesley creates, and Bev gets trapped in, in "Remember Me".

Warp bubbles are named in "Interface" as a type of subspace deformation.

In both cases, they're unique phenomena.

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

When the Dauntless is chasing the Protostar in PRO: "Mindwalk", Tysess gives the order to merge the "warp bubbles" of both ships, the first time we hear the term being applied to a warp field.

When the Enterprise is unable to go to warp in SNW: "The Elysian Kingdom", Spock theorizes the nebula may be affecting the ship's ability to create a "static warp bubble", and from context he's talking about the warp field generated by the nacelles.

Prior to this, the terms "warp bubbles" and "warp fields" were not used interchangeably, the former being a “static warp bubble”, previously established as a toroidal, non-propulsive subspace field which once trapped Beverly Crusher in a pocket universe (TNG: “Remember Me”) rather than the field used to enable warp speed travel.

[–] shawnj2@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

The warp effect in Beyond is the warp effect for the Alcubierre drive. Seeing as it's basically the only plausible way to have an FTL system I'm fine with treating it that way since the ship practically moves at the speed of the plot so how it actually moves doesn't really matter