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I was wrong to ignore Zigbee and Z-Wave. They’re the best part of my smart home. (arstechnica.com)

submitted 9 months ago by GreatAlbatross to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world

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When I started at Ars in the summer of 2022, the next generation of smart home standards was on the way. Matter, an interoperable device setup and management system, and Thread, a radio network that would provide secure, far-reaching connectivity optimized for tiny batteries. Together, they would offer a home that, while well-connected, could also work entirely inside a home network and switch between controlling ecosystems with ease. I knew this tech wouldn't show up immediately, but I thought it was a good time to start looking to the future, to leave behind the old standards and coalesce into something new.

Instead, Matter and Thread are a big mess, and I am now writing to tell you that I was wrong, or at least ignorant, to have ignored the good things that already existed: Zigbee and Z-Wave. I've put in my time with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and various brittle combinations of the two. They're useful for data-rich devices and for things that can stay plugged in. Zigbee and Z-Wave have been around, but they always seemed fidgety, obscure, and vaguely European at a glance. But here, in the year 2024, I am now an admirer of both, and I think they still have a place in our homes.

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[–] GreatAlbatross 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I found hue bulbs to be a lot more responsive once I ditched the hub, and paired my bulbs directly with a zigbee coordinator.

[–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is the way. I've had absolutely zero issues with my Hue bulbs directly connected to a USB Zigbee controller and running zigbee2mqtt. With Zigbee bindings to smart switches, they respond practically instantly as well whenever we decide to control them that way.

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I used to use a USB Zigbee coordinator, but an Ethernet one with PoE is way more flexible since I can place it anywhere in the house. https://smartlight.me/smart-home-devices/zigbee-devices/smlight-slzb-06en. This one has a nice web UI for updating the firmware, too. I switched from a Sonoff Zigbee dongle recently and really should have done it earlier.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As someone who runs HomeAssistant in a VM that could migrate between three different servers at anytime depending on what is going on, a networked Zigbee coordinator was essential.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eh, just stick the USB into a pi and host the usb port over the network into the vm.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's just a networked Zigbee coordinator with more steps. The coordinator I linked to uses PoE so all I need is a network cable.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 9 months ago

sure, but I don't have to buy more things that I already have... and can do it with zwave too.

[–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That does also look like a good option. In my case, I have a Pi 4 running both zigbee2mqtt and zwave-js-ui using connected Zigbee and Zwave USB dongles placed centrally in the house (Eclipse mosquitto is running on a separate 3-server cluster). I've only briefly searched, but network zwave controllers seem to be much less common or more expensive, so I probably wouldn't benefit much from changing my Zigbee controller at the moment.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The Zigbee ones aren't too expensive. The one I use (Smartlight SLZB-06) is $30 plus shipping ($8 to the USA) from their official store.

Z-wave is more of a niche at this point, especially since newer Zigbee radios also support Thread (which is the future).

[–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Oh I know, but my thermostat and a handful of other devices are Zwave, so for me specifically it's probably not worth changing things up at this time.