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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

This is exactly why the old fashioned Analog installations cost more to begin with: They're very secure and more difficult to disable.

Of course, the number 1 method to avoid robbery is to simply make yourself an unappealing target: no FB/Instagram stories, door that looks more solid than it is, padlocks, signage warning of dogs/firearms (even if you don't have either). Keep your equipment, cars, or boats inside or covered. Etc. Even just a floodlight that detects motion at night and makes a beep beep sound can scare off most kids and crackheads. If you live in an apartment, put some broken furniture on your patio and people will think you're poor.

It seems like Wifi Cams and the little signs/stickers they come with are exactly the opposite: "I HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE THAT YOU WANT BUT HAVEN'T SECURED IT PROPERLY."

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're right that you should try to make yourself a less appealing target for thrives, but some of your methods don't really hold up to scrutiny. Beeping motion sensor lights and secure locks and doors are great ideas. They will absolutely deter casual thrives and addicts.

Advertising that you have guns is just advertising that you have something to steal that is valuable, easy to sell, and easy to carry.

Warning signs for dogs aren't much better. If you don't have a dog, that will usually become obvious to anyone close enough to read the sign. If you do have a dog, then the sign is just an invitation to have them murdered the next time you have to interact with police at home. It will also expose you to liability should any trespasser be injured by that dog. Yeah, even the person robbing you, but also children, other pets, and well meaning innocent people just doing their jobs (and not breaking the law by entering your property without permission) like meter readers, mailmen, land surveyors, emergency response, etc. When I see a dog warning sign, to me it just says that a dumb asshole abusing a dog lives here.

Broken furniture sounds clever, but that just says trashy, not poor. Actual poor people take better care of their shit. HOAs would also limit the places you could actually do this without fines in the suburbs. Broken outdoor furniture is as common as weeds in more rural areas.

WiFi Cams just mean that you can afford Internet. EVERYBODY has WiFi cameras. They are ridiculously cheap to buy and easy to install. Cameras (WiFi or not) aren't a great deterent anyway.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I feel like the risk/return on firearms isn't great for breaking into homes at night, but if it were in an unattended vehicle then that's another story.

You don't actually have to own a dog, and having signage doesn't indicate abuse in any case.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Have dogs. Also have a firearm in the house my mother has only pointed at me, while loaded. once.

The cats would likely be the ones to save us.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You're confusing opinion and facts. My opinion is not fact (regarding dog warning signs) and I never said it was. Your feelings also are not fact.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago

There is no confusion here, friend. Our opinions conflict, that is all.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

DO NOT put gun signs/stickers up. It's an ongoing joke that a Glock sticker on a truck means "free gun inside".

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was a discussion about homes. Ya'll are putting wifi cameras in your cars?

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah. Just glocks. I can barely see over the pile of guns now.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a wifi camera strapped to a glock, that's a fun mental image.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

With an fpv headset for aiming?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Same principle applies; if you have a sign up warning people that you're armed, that means that there are free guns inside, as long as they wait until you're away or asleep.

It's like, don't put the empty box for the $5000 television set out with your trash, put it out with someone else's trash, so that people don't know you just bought a brand new expensive piece of electronics.

[–] GreatAlbatross 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's an interesting take, and I think I might agree with you.
Solid-looking boring lock, everything looking like it would last decades, looks like someone who sorted the security confidently.
Plastic looking wifi cameras everywhere have a "curtain twitchy granny" vibe.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

My mom says the neighbors can't see her looking.