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Really missing a true "save" ability for posts and comments on kbin (kbin.social)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by frasassi@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social
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I am aware that upvoted posts make it to https://kbin.social/fav however that just doesn't work well as I already have 1,000+ pages in there. Moreover, that only registers upvoted posts and not comments. A workaround would be to just use boost, and only upvote when you want to "save" but that is just not conventional imho. The ability on /r to simply save a comment or a post is truly basic but effective.

@Ernest

EDIT: Relevant Codeberg issue

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[–] Pamasich@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Worth noting this is only for reputation.

The sorting algorithm still doesn't consider upvotes.

[–] Teppic@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Edit, my post here was wrong @Pamasich appears to be correct, having checked the "top" sort order of /all I have concluded that it is according to Boosts less Downvotes, upvotes do indeed seem to be ignored.

For the record and to maintain the coherence of the message chain below this one, my previous post:
This isn't true. Top and hot work according to [upvotes plus boostsx2 less downvotes] same as reputation. This is easily proved by sorting by top and noting sometimes they are not in order of most boosts.
Sorting was actually made to work this way long before reputation was changed to match.

[–] Pamasich@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If I look at the top posts on /all/:

  1. Total 1958 | Upvotes 711 | Downvotes 43 | Boosts 645 | Link
  2. Total 1408 | Upvotes 608 | Downvotes 20 | Boosts 410 | Link
  3. Total 2062 | Upvotes 1274 | Downvotes 16 | Boosts 402 | Link
  4. Total 2198 | Upvotes 1568 | Downvotes 2 | Boosts 316 | Link

Formula for total I'm using is boosts * 2 + upvotes - downvotes.

Really doesn't look to me like that's what it uses.

Though, now that you mentioned it, I do notice that rarely the posts aren't in order of boosts. Maybe the sorting algorithm uses an entirely different formula? Boosts do seem to be mostly responsible though, judging by what I see on /all/.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

A long time ago, back at the beginning (was that a month ago now?) Ernest posted that the boost button moved a thread to the top of the Active list and added some points for its score on Hot.

[–] Teppic@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was mostly going by what Ernest posted on codeburg four weeks ago.
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/80
I'll admit that other than noting by eye

  1. It's not purely boosts; and
  2. It is mostly boosts (as you say)

I've not actually tried making a spreadsheet to check the algorithm (...yet!)

Edit: looking at /all perhaps for articles the number of comments is counted too somehow?

Edit2: If you formatted your table as a code snippet it would probably work since it would use a fixed-width font.