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Propaganda is a tool that facts can be used for. It's not inherently good or bad, valuable or a waste of time. It's just a means to an end. Whether it's commiserating over capitalism or lauding successes of leftist activism. If people are intentionally spreading it, it's propaganda. Encouraging activism like you're doing is propaganda. And propaganda is a form of activism. (Not to say posting is praxis, online posting obviously has it's limitations).
How would people know how/where/when/why to attend anti fascist protests without propaganda?
I‘ll go with the wikipedia definition:
What I‘m doing is therefore not propaganda. Its just the cold hard truth.
I dont need propaganda to get active. I read articles and talk to people. Not saying a good FCKNZS sticker doesnt make me chuckle.
My point is I‘d like to go through lemmy without being reminded of the shit world I live in for a couple hours and deliberately choose to subject myself to if I feel I have the power for it.
Does that make any sense? This is lemmy world afaik, not .ml
By presenting your "cold hard truths" are you furthering an agenda or trying to persuade people? I know when I'm speaking on politics that I'm certainly trying to explain my views in order to convince others, as are most people. Just because it may selectively present facts doesn't mean it has to. Theres also more to propaganda than a Wikipedia definition, I'd hope you're willing to acknowledge that. Especially in politics as many definitions are heavily contextual.
Again, talking to people about your views and the supporting arguments for them is propaganda. Just because you attach a negative connotation to the word doesn't mean it isn't what you're doing. It's propaganda as much as the FCKNZS sticker is.
You have as much right as anyone else to curate the media you consume. You could've hidden this post as soon as you read the first panel of the comic, it clearly isn't what you were looking for. Lemmy is a very small, very left leaning social network. .world .ml or hexbear you're going to encounter progressive politics basically everywhere. Unless you've only been here for a day or so, that should be obvious.
If you're some flavor of left, and you seemingly understand the importance of propaganda to the point that youve incorporated it into your praxis (whether you want to call it that or not) why would you actively discourage it? If it's not what you're looking for at the moment it's easy to hide the post or go to a different site to consume different media. What's to be gained from discouraging posts like this?
Thanks for elaborating. I appreciate the rather neutral disagreement there. Has been the first time in a week.
I‘m here for over a year, made my own lemmy instance a couple months ago since I wanted to give it a try. Works well on the technical side so far.
My views are strange to most people. Some might have to do with autism, other with experiences. My view is extremely anti corpo, pro direct democracy, slightly anarchist, extemely anti corruption, etc. A lot of autistic folks seem to lean this way if they’re already outside of the ableist brainwashing machine.
But the way I say things misleads them somehow, no idea of the reason actually. I did have my own company in the past, actually over two dozen people. „A microcosmos where people get treated fairly and respectfully“ actually worked rather well until covid took the floor out under me.
Well, my point really is that being on lemmy helps on bad days. Some good discussions. But recently its a bit of a downward spiral, lots of corpo shills and trolls. My approach then probably gets more and more „special“ so people might think the same of me.
I‘m rather sad and sorry if people are hurt by what I say. I actually was trying to say I‘d like to have a choice of media without leaving a community.
I understand where you're coming from. I feel very similarly.
Thanks. It means a lot to me.