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Title is a reference to Resistance imagery about how Israeli soldiers will enter Gaza alive but leave it in coffins - the same is true for American soldiers in the Middle East if the regional war expands.

The image is of the Fattah-1 Iranian hypersonic ballistic missile, which its creators boast can overcome any missile defense system on the planet, has a range of 1400 kilometers (and thus Iran can strike Israel), and has a terminal impact velocity of Mach 13.


Dozens of American soldiers have been injured and 3 have been killed on a base in the Middle East. There has been confused reports about whether the attack was on Syrian territory or Jordan's - the Al-Tanf base is in Syria, but Tower-22 in Jordan is another base that helps supply Al-Tanf, and Tower-22 is the one that is alleged to have been hit. These is the first confirmed deaths of American troops since the conflict began, though it's not likely that this is actually the first deaths after hundreds of drone/missile strikes throughout the region on American bases, unless you think American soldiers are having extremely timely heart attacks just after a missile hits.

The attack is certainly impactful, though it does also have considerably symbolism. Courtesy of John Helmer:

The operational success of the strike for the attackers is strategic. Tower-22 is a logistics, supply, and rear guard post for the Al-Tanf base which US troops are operating thirty kilometres north across the border in Syria. The attack demonstrates that both Tower-22 and Al-Tanf, Jordan and Syria, are newly vulnerable to weapons which the US forces have failed to detect and neutralize. Just as significantly, the massive US airbase called Muwaffaq Salti, 230 kilometres west across Jordan, is also vulnerable now.

It indicates that Iran now possesses Russian expertise in countering American equipment:

“This is a significant accomplishment,” one of the sources said. “Was the bypassing of the US air defence system at Tower-22 pulled off with Russian assistance? US bases generally rely on the C-RAM [Counter Rocket, Artillery and Mortar] system. It was sent to Ukraine last year where the Russians have been learning to defeat it. What now of American EW [electronic warfare]? They’ve been doing a fair job of knocking drones down up to now. It seems a ‘coincidence’ that, not a week after the meetings in Moscow with Arabs and Iranians, we see this success. It’s a success the circumstances of which, we can be sure, Biden and Austin are not keen to advertise.”

I am putting my take on the table right now: I am 99% certain that the US won't attack Iran directly. I think we are still quite a while away from that being a possibility. Much more likely is that Iranian officials in Iraq or Syria will be hit by a retaliatory strike, as Israel has done recently. It is a significant escalation nonetheless. And it comes as Israel seems to be gearing up for a suicidal war with Hezbollah.


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Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
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https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
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[–] ziggurter@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

If there is a coup, it will involve the far right ousting Zelenskyy and the war will only intensify

At least they'd be pulling the mask off and maybe working-class people who are still bothering to pay attention would have to recognize it. If that can result in enough pressure to push the U.S. and the rest of the West to withdraw the material support in a moment when they're already losing interest in the war politically, then I don't think the war could intensify, even if those in charge in Ukraine would very much like it to.

That's a lot of "I hopes" I guess. But the TL;DR is pretty much that I think Zelensky being the face of this thing has been—and probably still continues to be—very damaging. As comical and pathetic as he is, he's still been very good for their PR.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least they'd be pulling the mask off

This was my thought.

If this happens we would be able to get a lot more people to recognise it for what it is. What material effect this has I'm not certain. Many Western factions will also have the excuse they've wanted to turn against Ukraine too. And narratively in history they can always pretend they originally supported "good" Ukraine before nazis fully took it over.... Despite the fact they pretended there was no real nazi problem there.

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

. And narratively in history they can always pretend they originally supported "good" Ukraine before nazis fully took it over....

Just go full Joker mode and start calling them out as tankies and Russian puppets if they attempt that.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The betrayals and recriminations are going to be so fun to watch, too bad it’s going to spawn an entire generation of bitter Nazis

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there any resistance against Nazis which doesn’t spawn more bitter, vengeful Nazis?

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Much like other types of infestation a complete eradication can solve the problem. It’s just hard to get all of them.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm convinced Russia will weaponize banderites the way the west weaponized ISIS and send them into Europe.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

it will be the opposite. the CIA will continue to weaponize the banderites to do terrorist attacks in Russia and Crimea. After 20 years of that one of them might blowback.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine was betrayed by the west. They said they would give Ukraine unlimited support. They told Zelensky to tank the negotiations that were quite reasonable and that the west would guarantee victory over Russia. This is fact not just spin. The only way that Banderites will be allowed to continue to exist after Russia's inevitable victory is as tools of Russia. Making the conversion from western puppets to Russian puppets would be to easy to pass up.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

they will continue to supply banderite terrorists with weaponry and training to damage Russia, even after Ukraine itself is fully defeated in whatever form that takes. Just like they continue to train and supply ISIS and Al Qaeda after their blowback. The nazi insurgents will not find any lack of funding

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

Send Nazis into Europe? I fully expect the Euronazis to sieg-heil them as they march into their cities.