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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Personally I don't find big issue with praying but kids should not be exposed to this sort of mentality. It's frankly insane that we allow religious indoctrination for children.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Prayer as a form of meditation is fine, but when it actively takes the place of working towards solutions and/or improving situations…. At best it’s a lazy response to feel better.

For example, praying for the homeless or starving. Praying about it changes very little. Granted unless one happens to be Jeff Bezos, there’s not a lot we can do, but even that much doesn’t happen when people see prayer as a viable alternative to doing it.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you look at the theories behind modern spell work (I find magic systems interesting, whether "real" or from a game) you begin to realize that prayer is just a form of spell work.

The problem is, it's really fucking bad at it.

Also, the church then becomes hypocritical (what, again?) for banning spell craft.

Transubstantiation? More like transmutation.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

It kind of depends on the purpose behind the prayer.

Ritual prayer (like blessing a meal, or similar invocations,) are more symbolic or ritual.

Prayer for certain things… healing the sick, more money. Trump winning the election. Winning the lottery….

Yeah, those basically are spells. Yup.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you stopped the indoctrination of children, religions would die within a generation. You'd just be left with fringe cults here and there that we'd laugh at.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sounds like something that happened in ex-republics. For example during 2023 cristmas 1% of citizens visited christian churches in my country. And considering source(police) this number is probably inflated.

Relative to countries where many people visit church every week we have pretty secular society. Meanwhile fe(de)ral propaganda will continue to sell bullshit of "staples".

[–] Captain_Waffles@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. And yet the same people who squawk about the "LGBT religion indoctrinating kids" have no issues indoctrinating kids in actual religions.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

To be fair cancel religion is a thing. Or Twitter religion. Many names, same stuff.