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A future-of-work expert said Gen Zers didn't have the "promise of stability" at work, so they're putting their personal lives and well-being first.

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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is a hot take. People have definitely wanted to work. The problem is now we don't need to. There was a point that humans needed to work or we would not evolve as a species. There are many that took pride in being a part of that. Now that need has shifted into we could feasibly feed and shelter every soul on the planet and a few greedy fucks don't know how to coordinate it with all their riches.

[–] executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends what you mean by work. People always want to do things and create things and help others. They don't want to spend 8 hours a day doing menial, meaningless crap just to be able live.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

My point is that they did. Back when there was a sense of accomplishment that added to the human existence. There was a sense of pride to a lot of workers in the 50s for many reasons. I do agree that it has changed. And a lot of it has to do with the rewards given. But they still exist.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they have. I think they were made to labor under the whip or under a promise for something. You're like that other guy thinking the guy cracking the whip or promoting the latest video game are "working".

The freedom to pursue ones interests isn't work.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You make it sound like there is only dirt poor people forced to work or criminally rich people with "freedom to peruse their interests"

Somehow having a job you like in this situation makes it not work.

LOL, nah man, I found WORK and I like it and it's still called WORK.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The idea that work stops being work if you enjoy it not something I can take seriously.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Working in a textile mill in 120 degree heat is work. It's work no one wants to do. No one comes in and argues pedantically about "well I find sweating my ass off for minimum wage fulfilling". That's work.

Going into your temperature controlled office where you're a CPA and get paid wonderfully and enjoy numbers isn't the same thing at all.

The work I'm referencing is the bottom tier shit that without it the economy would crumble. Not your SEO manager bullshit job that you think you love cause you're making 6 figures in a 5 figure town.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Buddy, working in a textile mill in 48 °C is a safety hazard and modern slavery. You have a weird warped pedantic perspective on what work means. And somejow the rest of us should take the dictionary definition and throw it out of the window and instead adopt your made up definition that seems to only work in your head? 😬 No thanks.

The first is modern slavery. The second is work. Hope it helps! Cheers.

Ps: SEO manager? Clearly it was a mistake to engage you at all because you didn't read squat shit of what I wrote. Note to the future: do not engage people who haven't even read your own text, and don't bother reading their text to the end. They are upset at a phantom in their heads, not you.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you're definitely one of those people that talks louder than whoever they're talking with and assumes they're right. Enjoy your "work".

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I am enjoying it, thanks.