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Specifically I'm wondering about the TV frontend UI. Presumably most people are going to be using an android tv box like fire tv or chromecast? Something else?

I recently picked up a new chromecast 4k that has the "Google TV" OS on it and... I'm having a hell of a time coming up with a UI that looks similar to the stock one (with movie recommendations, up next, my watchlist, etc) but that hooks into piracy streaming services.

For launchers I found projectivy, but I noticed that the "channels" feature which pulls in that sort of thing is remarkably limited. Streaming-wise I've got stremio and cloudstream, and only stremio lets me pull in my library into projectivy. Which is okay but I can't get that synced with trakt or getting recommendations; it all has to be managed from stremio.

whereas cloudstream doesn't really have any connectivity at all. There's a few streaming services that somewhat pull things in but it's not great. Netflix doesn't seem to hook into it, nor plex. It ends up being better to just use the stock home and manually launching into stremio/cloudstream when I want them.

Surely there has to be a better way to do this? The stock home screen is nice with free live tv, movie recommendations that link into various paid streaming services, etc. I'd just like to hook in something like stremio, plex, etc. instead, but that seems impossible?

What exactly do y'all do for your setups? Trying to manage my google play watchlist/likes independently of trackt, and then also managing my stremio library separately from both just feels like hell. I end up having to take mental note of the stuff I see on the home screen and manually searching it up.

The live tv channels that the stock homescreen has is seemingly not replicated anywhere else which is a bit disappointing. I saw the old android tv menu get really close to what I'm after, but I can't manage to get it working on my newer chromecast. The menu installs, but the channel feature doesn't work, making it pointless.

Is there a better way?

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[–] slym@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Running jellyfin and *arr servers on promox running on a small form factor . For the tv i’m using a roku stick with jellyfin channel.

[–] jasep@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Similar but I'm running either Nvidia Shield or Google TV. I use Kodi with the Jellyfin for Kodi plugin as the front-end. It's great.

[–] brian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Has the Jellyfin app improved for Roku in recent years? Last I tried it, maybe 2 years ago, it was near unusable from a UI perspective

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is certainly usable. Though for whatever reason the series "invasion" from apple tv gave it fits. But everything else I have watched on it was fine. I've only had mine setup for a few months though. Roku in one room, tivo stick (android) in another. The tivo stick handled invasion. Both needed some minor tuning though.

[–] Elkenders 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's the weakest part of the setup on a Chromecast TV running the android app. Works really well mostly though the interface could look slicker. There must be hardware deciding unavailable for some stuff because the odd bit of media is ultrasluggish.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on the hardware you give it I'm pretty sure, a later gpu will support all codecs but older ones might not be able to encode/decode even h256

[–] Elkenders 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've got the 4k one with Google TV and it still doesn't have hardware deciding for some of my collection. Not much, maybe 1%.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whoops, I read your original comment wrong, I meant server hardware - but that's real weird its not transcoding right to whatever your Chromecast supports

[–] Elkenders 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah what's with that? It's still stuttery even after I downsample. And only on specific files.

[–] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Works really well mostly though the interface could look slicker.

Our first priority is stability and functionality. Roku's built-in UI components aren't the prettiest, so if you want anything "slick" it has to be a custom element and you'll need to custom code all the behind the scenes logic yourself. That's a ton of work just for a UI change, so we're focusing on functionality first.

[–] pureness@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

thanks, do you have any guide or additional info on setup?

[–] slym@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You will have to install proxmox on a computer ( that is an os you will have to create a bootable USB key for that ) here the website to check that out : https://proxmox.com/en/ And all my server are lxc, i launch all the lxc’s with those open source script : https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

Just search for the jellyfin one ans the *arr that you think you will need .

[–] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What is the advantage of running proxmox vs install eg Ubuntu, Docker, and manage it via ssh and Portainer?

[–] slym@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well it depend of what you want to do with it. Proxmox is an hypervisor so is job is to manage VM and in the case of proxmox also lxc container . So with proxmox you will be able to manage multiple machine with any OS that you would like and need. For lxc’ i’m pretty much new to it but if i can explain the difference with docker is that lxc are container at the kernel level and docker is at the software level. Also proxmox bring a lot of fonctionality with convenience like snapshot, firewall at the hypervisor level, backup of yours vms and containers, vlan and more . I know that some of it can also be emulate with docker but i find it easier to do with proxmox with the limited that i have to play around my local infrastructure.
If you want there’s a lot of tutorial and explaning about proxmox that are very interesting on YouTube i think it would be the best way to understand everything that proxmox could bring you and you will be able to make your own opinion on it.

Welcome in the rabbit hole of selfhosted enthousiast.

[–] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Welcome in the rabbit hole of selfhosted enthousiast.

Haha yes looks like it. I only have 1 server (to be bought) and a RPI, which should be sufficient. Proxmox seems overkill for that scenario; I'll just run Docker. Thanks.

[–] slym@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Here some communties if you are not already subscribe to them on lemmy: https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted and https://lemmy.ml/c/selfhosted

[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 1 points 10 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !selfhosted@lemmy.world, !selfhosted@lemmy.ml