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[–] los_chill@programming.dev 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Very refreshing take on it. The cynicism about whether the protests were 'worth it' because we didn't see massive results felt like it missed all the fun of giving the greedy corporation the collective finger.

[–] seperis@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the only reason you'll fight is because you think you can win, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Win or lose or both or nothing at all, you do it because it's worth fighting for. Sometimes this ends with Brown v. Board of Education and Obergefell v. Hodges, but mostly, it won't, so if the best I can do right now is give some people a very, very bad day, well, I'm in: let's go.

[–] CapitalismsRefugee@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right. I fight not because I believe I'll win, or even because I believe victory is "possible", but because it's more comfortable for me so to speak to be fighting than to quietly and passively support the ideology I disagree with. It is more "restful" to me to be fighting a fight I believe in than to be resting in a world I hate.

[–] seperis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You. You are my people.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that the finger is still a form of engagement when you do it on the site you're protesting. The admins don't care as long as you're still driving clicks.

[–] seperis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Legit and I agree.

However, nothing in my experience with Reddit Admins has contradicted my impression that when they were five years old, you could give them a full screaming meltdown playing "I'm not touching you" in three minutes or less. Can I prove it if they aren't melting down regularly over some of this where I can see it? No. But I know it's happening, and that's enough.

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honest question, is there such a thing as bad engagement? Or is engagement like that saying about bad publicity?

[–] Madster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

NSFW content can’t be monetised and advertisers are having second thoughts about their willingness to advertise there (or so the lowering number of clicks on the advertisement page leads one to believe), so I guess there can be bad engagement.