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[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the principles of what you're saying, groupthink is certainly bad, but usually people align with other people with underlying foundational values and beliefs. Ie, people tend to support gay rights if they also support trans rights, because they stem from similar areas of prejudice.

But the foundational values vary from culture to culture. My country has a lot of people who are socially conservative, but not that many who support free-market economics. In your own example, we have a long tradition of transgender people, and they have laws protecting them from discrimination. On the other hand, homosexuality was a legal grey area until a few years ago, and their marriages are still not recognised by the law. Iran is an even more extreme example here, with gender reassignment surgery being state-subsidised, but homosexuality still illegal.

So I wonder to what extent political positions are universal, and to what extent they are an accident of history.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Culture plays a huge part in what is normative, yes, but actual positions tend to support other positions by proxy, like a web.

Essentially, it's understandable that a Socialist would also support FOSS development, as FOSS also rejects private ownership and the profit motive. However, it's less understandable that a huge supporter of the profit motive would love FOSS as much. They can reason that people should have the choice, but it breaks down just a bit.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The current government in my country is definitely right of centre, and are pushing for Linux adoption, largely on a 'we should not be dependent on foreign companies for the software we use' plank. Although, to be fair, Linux was able to get a foothold in the first place because a communist state government tried using it in the 2000s. They succeeded, leading other states and the union government to follow suit.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Yep, you can advocate for leftist principles or leftist originated things as a right-winger, it just takes a large amount of justification in order to do so.