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Adaptogens and Autism (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by sinewyshadow@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Hello comrades! I figured I might have a bit more scientific responses here than Reddit, or maybe the same. So, for the longest damn time, I was really into adaptogenic teas, it gave me a bit of a buzz but in a good way. More focused I should say. I also have autism, and I tried a cordyceps tea and I didn't feel as autistic when drinking the tea if that makes sense? I'm pretty dumb when it comes to scientific things, like the brain and stuff, so please help me understand. If I try adaptogenic teas again, will it take away more of my autism, as the adaptogenic rewire your brain? Also, I'm confused on the whole neurprotective thing. Does neuroprotective mean it'll protect my autistic brain? Or what exactly does that mean?

P.S. I'm NOT trying to get rid of my autism AT ALL. I know it's in your genes/dna, but then how do adaptogens work?

Bonus question: How long do adaptogenic teas stay in your system, and do your nerve pathways go back to normal when you stop taking adaptogens?

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[–] ratboy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So there are a bunch of different things in this post thay seem to need answers so Ill try my best to find resources for you.

First off, neuroprotection is defined as "the relative preservation of neuronal structure and/or function". So we have thousands if not millions of neurons in our body, and each neuron releases neurotransmitters such as endorphins, serotonin, dopamine etc. To be absorbed by other neurons which affect our mood and bodily functions.

Some fungi, such as Lions mane mushrooms have been shown to potentially aid in neuron growth and improve symptoms of alzheimers. In this way they can be neuroprotective.

Now, it has been found that autistic people experience synaptic pruning at a much, much lower rate than neurotypical people. Synapses are like little connectors that help neurons communicate with eachother. As infants we all experience synaptic overgrowth, then we experience synaptic pruning which gets rid of less efficient connections.

Knowing that, my brain goes to thinking that if anything Lions mane might reinforce some aspects of autism! That's just my first thought though and is probably inaccurate.

I don't know much about how adaptogens work, and I've never really considered a connection to autism before but I did a little digging but there seems to be no real research on this. From my limited understanding, adaptogens seem to work similar to how ingesting vitamins and minerals might work, or coffee or tea. They also cover a broad range of herbs and fungi and they all work differently.

Do you mind explaining how the cordyceps tea made you feel "less autistic"? So far there is no research indicating that there is or will be any "cure" for autism or way to "rewire your brain" to get rid of your autism. If anything, it is likely that adaptogens might help you feel calmer or more focused, where the stress or anxiety might be caused by overstimulation experienced due to autism. So like the overstimulation may remain but they may help to manage it more effectively. Does that make sense?

[–] sinewyshadow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that's makes sense. When I get really happy or excited I'll stim. When I drank the cordyceps tea, it was similar to being high, but my body and mind were calmer. Same effect with Tulsi tea. I know Tulsi tea has linalool in it. which is also in Marijuana. When I drink Tulsi or Cordyceps tea, it feels like my vision and brain are in a bubble, or I'm looking through a fishy eye lens if that makes sense. What I'm hoping, is that adaptogens just block certain receptors and aren't really changing the brain at all.

[–] ratboy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dang that's cool, I'll have to try some! Yeah, I mean they do affect how your brain functions in the moment, similar to coffee, green tea, alcohol, etc. But it seems that there may be more long term changes, if we look at the lions mane example. Sounds like a super interesting thing to do a deep dive on, though! Idk if there is a whole lot of scientific literature on them but I like to find peer reviewed scientific articles. If you read just the abstract and the conclusion you usually are able to get the info you're looking for

[–] sinewyshadow@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The long term is what I'm slightly concerned about.

[–] ratboy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

What exactly are you concerned about? Like are there any particular outcomes that scare you? I doubt that anything you take would make a huge, substantial, permanent change that you would notice, but again this is all just my assumption but I've taken reishi, kava, ginseng, all kinds of tea etc and I haven't noticed drastic changes after my body metabolizes it