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Link: https://nitter.net/TeamFortressS2/status/1745157814295617767

Valve is generally supportive of mods (hell, a Portal 2 mod was just released a few days ago) but it seems like recreating Team Fortress 2 was pushing it... Really sad, honestly. I really hope Valve would just strike a deal with these devs and make it official rather than throw away the insane amount of effort they put into re-building TF2.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Makes me wonder where their line is between this and Black Mesa, though.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 10 months ago

Black Mesa is a remake of a single player game that Valve wasn't planning on remaking any time soon, more profitable to make it official and take a cut

TF2 actively still makes them sht tons of money, no profit in splitting the fan base

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Imo, Trademark. Black Mesa is a concept from Half-Life, but "Black Mesa" to the best of my knowledge wasn't a registered trademark. "Team Fortress/Team Fortress 2" are registered trademarks however, and that significantly changes the value and functionality of the specific terms.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That would only allow them the name, not the content. They always had to get Valve's permission.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Yes, but it's easier to give permission to use concepts that don't infringe on trademark than it is to give permission on something that could be argued in court as muddying a trademark.

I know they require permission either way, but what permission they're actually asking for changes based on what terminology they use

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

But we just got Portal Revolution some days ago, on steam.

[–] Mountaineer@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I'd guess the fine line is "Valve intend to earn money from something official in the future"