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Donald Trump told the president of the European Commission in 2020 that the US would “never come help” if Europe was attacked and also said “Nato is dead”, a senior European commissioner said.

Multiple news outlets said the exchange between Trump and Ursula von der Leyen at the World Economic Forum in Davos in 2020 was described in Brussels on Tuesday by Thierry Breton, a French European commissioner responsible for the internal market, with responsibilities including defence.

“You need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you,” Trump said, according to Breton, who was speaking at the European parliament.

According to Breton, Trump also said: “By the way, Nato is dead, and we will leave, we will quit Nato.”

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[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Even having Trump on the ballot is risking civil war or at least collapsing of the union. I imagine a fight over him lying that he won again will be enough of a spark in the powder room.

And remember, the problem has NEVER been Trump. He's just a stupid, fat, orange moron. The US is fucked bc Trump supporters exist and are tolerated.

The GOP gives aid and comfort to the enemies of the constitution and the country. They're not a legitimate party, or even citizens.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There's a very very very very small part of me that wants to see a civil war over Trump.

Then we'd have American civil war causes:

  1. conservatives killing our fellow citizens over fucking slavery.

  2. conservatives killing our fellow citizens over the worlds dumbest con man...

What a history book that would be...

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I understand the emotional response of "time to Sherman the south again", but I NEVER want to see a civil war here. Plus complicating the matter is, a lot of people have nobody to fight for. Why would anyone lay their lives down for the Dems. My personal best GUESS is that it'd devolve into small regional struggles, along with a what the fuck happens to the military and all the bases, etc.

What I do know is that once we burn down the south again, we're NOT repeating one of the greatest mistakes ever of reconstruction, nor allowing the traitor states back in the union (if some form of union still exists in the aftermath). Fool us once...

LOL right on with the history book!

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh 100% agreed, I don't want any of the violence or death, I don't want to Sherman the South or anything. The "very very very small part of me" just wanted it for the "joke" I made about the causes they fight for lol

[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I feel you. LOL