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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 70 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Imagine all the people who would do the Matrix thing and learn martial arts... Only to gain the wisdom that knowing how to do martial arts doesn't make it any easier when you're fat and out of shape.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I like to think it would be like playing a new game from the beginning vs replaying a game from the beginning and youd still have a big leg up in the knowledge and methodology for training, and a good understanding of the progress you make

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

I did sports when I was young. I know how to correctly do the exercises, running routines and all that. I'm still not doing it now because all of that knowledge is worth nothing without willpower.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I had gotten to green belt in judo when I was much younger. I still retain that knowledge. It still wouldn't stop my back from going out if I tried to throw someone now and I probably wouldn't win in a sparring match even against a white belt unless they were a child. The point is like GI Joe: knowing is only half the battle.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

but you could kick that child's ass i bet

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 8 months ago

Oh for sure. I could toss little kids all day.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean a core part of most martial arts is just learning how to control the body.

Knowing how to move would still be a decent advantage for someone like that

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Matrix thing is only really useful when you go inside the Matrix, where your limits are your mental strength. Outside the Matrix you're still a weedy little person. Look at when Neo and Bane/Smith fought: it was messy, ugly, and the opposite of choreographed martial arts.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ironically, the matrix is also the one place where you can negate the need for kung fu because you can just alter reality with your thoughts by simply believing hard enough.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Theoretically, but even Neo, the most powerful RedPill, could only bend the rules. His control over flight, bullets, things warping under stress around him, etc, is as close as he got to altering the virtual reality.

Just like the Agents, you can bend the rules, but you are still bound by them.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People do martial arts to get into shape though.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And those with motivation and willpower do it the old fashioned way. Plenty of people would jump at the chance to take a shortcut like downloading the knowledge into their brain, only to realize knowledge alone doesn't make one a kung fu master.