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I have been on reddit for just about 12 years now. Something I've noticed over time is just how hateful the place has become. A complete outrage machine. Every single sub became filled with it. I've filtered so many subreddits over the last few years, it's insane. I don't know enough about this place to be sure, but I do hope it doesn't become the same type of echo chamber of anger.

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[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Theres a lot of people here outraged, especially against capitalism for some reason

[–] mtnwolf@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Being outraged against a system that exploits the labor of the masses for the profit of the few is not the same as being outraged at other people who disagree with you. You can support capitalism and I don't need to insult you or make attacks against you personally. Outrage, when it is against something you feel to be harmful is normal. Outrage that is generated by corporate manipulation is not normal. For example, the hatred toward the trans community and drag queens has never been a "thing".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgkWQpgZ1JQ

This is a clip from a Love Boat episode. It aired in 1982. Nobody called them "woke" or even really talked about it the next day. Drag shows have been in US culture since at least the 1920s. I remember, back in the 90s, people would flock to this club in town called "Discovery" on Saturday nights. It was a gay dance club, but on Saturdays, there would often be an equal number of straight couples who came to enjoy the extravagant stage shows, which were similar to something you might see in Vegas. This was in the deep south, too. There were no protests. There were no attacks. There was no violence. There was no outrage.

We have been manipulated because it's profitable. Oh and, yes, thank capitalism for that. :)

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, for some reason. How can this be? /s

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the party pal

[–] c0c0c0@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I struggle with that one, too. Like, the alternatives are better? I think there are a large amount of people who have not found financial stability, and they feel like all they can do is "fight the system".

[–] Bigworsh@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Just because you don't understand it you don't have to belittle people for their opinions. And yes, even poor people are allowed to be heard without judging them for being poor.

I don't think this is the right place for this kind of discussion. But yeah even people with financial stability can be against the system for good reasons.

[–] Lala@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m financially stable. I’m 100% of the view that late stage capitalism should be fought. Vigorously.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's destroying the planet's habitability.

When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money.

[–] mtnwolf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Money has no intrinsic value at all. The true wealth is labor. Labor has actual value. The masses own the wealth and we give it to others in exchange for "money". The power of the rich only remains for as long as they can control the labor. This is why they spread so much fear about AI "taking your jobs". Every time AI and automation take away a job, it takes away a little bit of power. Because capitalism has taught us, all things being equal, the service or product that costs less is what we buy. Products with an AI labor force don't have to pay for that labor, and capitalistic competition will drive the prices down. As more and more labor is shifted to AI and automation, those who controlled human labor, the actual wealth, will lose control of that wealth.

If they are unable to stop it, the eventual progression would be replacing all human labor and do away with the need to even have a money system. This will do away with wage slaves, and allow us to focus on learning and having fun. But the billionaires would be no different than everyone else when that playing field is levelled. They hate that. They oppose it. They try and manipulate us to fear AI and to resist it. Capitalism is truly just another system of control.