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You know how conservatives project? Think about it as the truth, but with a small change in detail such as the guilty party renamed to an enemy scapegoat. Now rethink what you said.
Conspiracy theories that parallel real conspiracies are the best way to stop people thinking about each view on its own merits. They conflate dumb q stuff with the legitimate similar thing and then refuse to engage intellectually. This is why the internet is so noisy. They KNOW that the Streisand effect will be counterproductive so instead they spam dark strawmen and noise until you just tune out because of the difficulty to process information.
Climate activists drowned out with astroturfed strawmanned groups such as extinction rebellion which de-legitimizes and generates hatred towards activists and allows the passing of totalitarian laws to prevent future protests etc.
Examples
In the end you will hate all the legit groups because of the astroturfed false flag strawmen groups.
This is such a good way to word this kind of phenominon. Conspiracies as distraction.
Its also funny, because its a conspiracy about conspiracies lol
What's wrong with XR?
People who aren't going to do anything either way like to blame XR's protests for their own inaction.
I've thought long and hard about why we fail to make change and I've thought about whats best and most reasonable within my own personality, skills and weaknesses. For me, I need to refine my views and then spread awareness, while also reducing our wasted efforts because of false consciousness. Do you want to suddenly become aware that you wasted years of your life to a false idea or would you rather some annoying rando accuse you of having in a false idea, then think about it honestly and reject the false idea years earlier?
As an example. Lots of people fell victim to what you suggest.. nazi philosophy was painted as "we have the cure! just blindly follow our legit seeming propaganda" and then people acted instead of thinking.. you know what happened after. People like me were trying to deprogram nazis but then we had to run or got holocausted. Also, do you notice how National socialism has a strange... misdirection that doesn't line up with its stated name? MEGAHINT HINT. also tankies cough cough
What do you think is wrong with conservatives? They work hard for the values they haven't investigated
You are absolutely right about us needing to take action, i just worry the average person will be super counterproductive with all the noise intended to misguide us.
I would have explained in more detail before but its hard to write a small book each reply haha. I'm glad you asked. So with XR there are a ton of things I can say but I'll probably ramble, so my apologies.
XR popped up at a time when revolutionary energies especially around the idea of climate apocalype type emergencies were at a local high. They openly stated in their website or whatevs that they allow police and landlords which if you are in the know, you know. Landlords and police are some of the most primary enablers of the climate apocalypse and capitalistic evils. Then there's their method of making change, which if you watch mass media, shows that they glue their unshaved armpits to the road or paintings, in the most "hate me, hate us" type of way possible. Effective climate activism doesn't come in the form of "hate us" activism, it comes in the form of making leaflets and dropping them in a thousand mailboxes, making community groups to discuss and spread truth about our govts complicity and support of negative and increasing changes that are damming us etc etc. I could list a lot more.. ugh :(
Each step of XRs path helped them to pass law after law to reduce our legal rights to protest while also making the general population hate protest+climate activists. Imagine getting blocked from getting to work by what the idiot box calls hippies. You'd slowly hate your heroes. Unfortunately lots of unthinkers fell into the XR bandwagon, even myself to some degree before i realised they allowed cops and had expensive non representing their base(humans) matching signs and uniforms. Easiest way to spot astroturfed groups is money spent on media like signs and uniforms. Any legit group will be censored to hell and will struggle to even have a website up.
Sorry for the mess.
Well said, thanks for doing the good work of pointing this out.
See other "grassroots" movements such as the Tea Party, Moms for Liberty, TPUSA, etc for the other side of this. These groups have clear and documented funding from billionaire interest groups and conveniently allow corporate media to conflate such far right groups with progressive movements as the same level of extremism.
I think it's far more simple that humans have a tendency to fractionalize everything they're apart of than it is a projection global conspiracy.
Some animal rights activists believe humans can have beneficial, symbiotic relationships with animals, like working dogs/horses, free range chickens that are well cared for, stuff like that.
Some animal rights activists think the concept of a working dog/horse as abhorrent because animals can't actually consent to that, the power dynamic makes it unethical, and utilizing the labor of an animal for personal gain is basically just slavery for a creature with less intelligence.
These two groups are closer to each other than they are to any right person that doesn't care at all for animals, but are still so dynamically opposed that they simply couldn't operate together because their end goals are dramatically different.
I'm a hardcore progressive. I will work with a capitalist democrat to get my goals met, but I wouldn't associate with them if I had a better option.
What you and I are saying can happen naturally as well as artificially. I'm mostly talking about how that regardless of if they are co-opting delegitimisation propaganda in origin or natural in origin, that the incorrect one gets amplified through common media in clearly suspicious and divisive ways. There certainly are a lot of differences in each group, some legit and some not. What if the different groups can have a correct subset and an incorrect subset? We are meant to discuss and reject the incorrect subset.
You know how conservatives tend to have this one cherry picked crazy example of us sometimes? Those always feel like propaganda campaigns and if you trace and investigate them more you can see they have questionable roots. An example would be the /r/antiwork mod that interviewed on television. notice how he was the worst possible example of us and went on tv after everyone said that it was a lose/lose scenario, that if they air it, you lost, and if you win they wont air it therefor you still lose.
Why does every group have a very heavily advertised and mysteriously promoted subset that betrays the movement in effect but looks valid superficially? I've seen a hundred times more about sovereign citizens than I've seen about actual anarchists talking about ideals.
This hurts :( My whole life feels dishonest because I cant find the right people to associate with in real life. I feel your pain.