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[–] BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Adopting EVs is an important step imo. The primary achievement of going EV is reducing oil/gas use. Moving away from cars as a society is a separate goal that can happen alongside this. We can never make gas green, at best net zero. EVs on the other hand can be better, with electricity from renewable sources, to batteries made with better materials. Both things which are happening and actively being researched.

So we can make EVs much better environmentally, and reduce gas demand significantly alongside reducing car use. Because we won't just stop needing gas magically, so replacing that is important for any transition away from it in the grand scheme.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I just don't see it. If we want to reduce oil/gas use then the goal would be eliminating private car use altogether and providing alternatives. EVs are still a huge machine designed to transport a single person. They're still a waste, not to mention how much the global south is getting exploited for their lithium.

Cars just aren't going to save anything. Here, I'll compromise. Electric bicycles.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For city use I agree with you but if you live in a small town you need a car. You are too far from almost everything you need. And you don't have public transport.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I believe even that should change. Everything should change to incorporate fewer or no cars, including small towns.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you live in a little town in the middle of nowhere you won't have public transport. It's too expensive. Private transport it's the only way to go anywhere from there. It's a shame but...

[–] axont@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah I know that. It's a shame which is why we have to change it. We're out here building a better future.