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Thank you! The difference between American and universal grade-2 contractions is interesting. I understand now why UEB would be easier for computers to translate, especially if the source content is grade 2. What makes the universal contractions less readable than the American contractions? Would it not be easier to understand a language with less ambiguity?
I mistakenly thought that public signs used grade-2 Braille. Do they use American or universal grade-1 Braille?
The plus and equals signs in UEB differ from those in Nemeth. This is my major cause for concern about whether or not to use Nemeth for young students. It sounds like this dilemma is absent when it comes to American Braille; if it lacks these characters, then the only choice would be to use Nemeth.
Some of the universal contractions require more symbols than the American ones do. As well, some contractions were eliminated entirely in UEB because they could cause ambiguity. Others had more strict rules instituted about when and how they could be used, to make those rules easier and avoid having rules with exceptions.
Please note, however, that I am extremely biased. The way I learned Braille (grade 2 American, and all Nemeth for math) when I was seven years old is, obviously, the way God intended Braille to be written, and probably how he wrote the ten commandments on those tablets he gave Moses back in the day. Modern changes to it are obviously abominations, and go against the natural order of things. Lucky for me, all of my devices still let me switch to Grade 2 American Braille anyway, so I can ignore this new fangled universal Braille code the kids want me to learn, and shake my cane angrily at them. Okay, Okay, I'm only 36. But that's how I feel! LOL. If you want the pro-UEB argument, maybe one of the younger commenters who actually likes it can be provoked into an argument...uh...I mean debate. I think maybe @dhamlinmusic@dragonscave.space uses UEB?
As for signs, I have seen some with grade 2 Braille on them, especially when they have a lot of information to convey, like on a plaque with fire exit/emergency instructions for example, or in some museum exhibits with Braille information. But stuff like "bathroom", button labels like open/on/off/start/stop, or elevator buttons, or room/class/office numbers, will generally be in grade 1, even when they could save a few symbols by using grade 2.
@fastfinge @thistledown I did not realize we’re basically same age, also yes I use UEB but have only been using #braille for just under 2 years, and have also been learning the older codes because of written works not being in UEB.
Oh also US rules for signage is to use contracted in general.