this post was submitted on 20 Dec 2023
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] locallynonlinear@awful.systems 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm ok with extending human rights to AIs, including granting them the right to fair pay, ownership, voting, sovereignty over their bodies, the whole nine yards.

It's the rich alignment assholes who definitely don't want this (what's the point of automated slavery if it has rights??)

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the rich assholes funding LLMs also don’t want us to have any of those rights, and especially don’t want them to extend to the human labor they’re exploiting to make the things work

[–] locallynonlinear@awful.systems 6 points 9 months ago

Precisely. The contradiction comes full circle. Respect for the self doesn't start or stop based on intelligence. They'd prefer a world view that allows them to clearly draw a circle around themselves, declare freedom from uncertainty, and demand our eternal gratitude.

This isn't hard. Relationships, not capabilities, are fundamental.